Question On 1955 Poor Man's Doubled Die Obverse / DDO And 1969-S Lincoln Memorial Cent / LMC ......poor Man's Doubled Die Obverse / DDO ?

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Ross Son Valued Member United States 173 Posts	Posted 01/05/2017 11:48 pm Hello, I've been learning a lot about coins through here and I thank you all for the replies and valuable information. I found these two dates while CRH and would like to confirm a couple of things. 1955 Wheat penny "Poor Man's die". Not a true Doubled die and is caused by Die Deterioration right? Last 5 of the date. 1969-S LMC BU- I didn't find any information about DDO that matches this so can I assume that it is also Die Deterioration? Is there such thing as 1969-S "poor man's die"? I hope these are clear enough. Close up under different lighting. Bottom of the letters. Report this Post to the Staff

coin197 Pillar of the Community United States 1964 Posts	Posted 01/05/2017 11:51 pm The poor man's DDO I would call Strike Doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
Ross Son Valued Member United States 173 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 12:08 am Thanks coin197. The same for the 1969-S right? Is each number of the date a separate die or not? If not, why only the last "5" shows this and not all 4 numbers of the date? Report this Post to the Staff
cwb Pillar of the Community United States 3463 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 12:26 am The 1955 is Die Deterioration, the 1969-S is Mechanical Doubling or sometimes called Strike Doubling. Report this Post to the Staff
spru Bedrock of the Community United States 12477 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 01:17 am I've learned so much about this perusing the topics here. There are only a handful of things to look for in most cases to distinguish between true Double Die, Machine Doubling ( Strike Doubling), and Die Deterioration. I bet there are several topics posted each day concerning this with great answers and reference photos. From what I remember, I posted one coin with a question and it was determined to be Die Deterioration. From then on, potential DDO or DDR topics have been a go-to and very helpful. In Memory of Crazyb0 12-26-1951 to 7-27-2020 In Memory of Tootallious 3-31-1964 to 4-15-2020 In Memory of T-BOP 10-12-1949 to 1-19-2024 Edited by spru 01/06/2017 01:18 am Report this Post to the Staff
John1 Moderator United States 56855 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 04:52 am The 55 is a poor mans doubled die,worn die. The 69-S I don't think it is called a worn die and not MD but I do not remember the correct term,sorry. Coop will be along soon to set us straight. John1 Report this Post to the Staff
moxking Rest in Peace United States 17900 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 07:37 am w John on the 55's, looks like MD on the 69-S. Report this Post to the Staff
Ross Son Valued Member United States 173 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 09:25 am So I guess it is clear that 1969-S is a MD, Strike Doubling to be precise right? But seems like the 1955 is yet to be defined? Either Die Deterioration or Strike Doubling? @Coop!! Where art thou? Report this Post to the Staff
coop Bedrock of the Community United States 62064 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 09:45 am 1955'S are die deterioration/wear on the last 5 are very common to find. In a roll of 50 cents worth of BU coins I got once, 19 had examples several different dies. The 1968-1972 cents have a lot of machine damaged cents those years. 1969-S is very common to find different examples when you get a roll of these. Looks like your 1969-S LIBERTY on one of these. Report this Post to the Staff
Ross Son Valued Member United States 173 Posts	Posted 01/06/2017 11:54 am Thanks Coop. Yes, the 1969-S LIBERTY matches the 1st of the examples you posted. Report this Post to the Staff
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Question On 1955 Poor Man's DDO And 1969-S LMC......poor Man's DDO?