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Ma Hong Wei's Offer: Anyone Else Receive?

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I received the following email from Ma Hong Wei <collecter1110@tom.com> . Two pictures of lots of stacked coins of unknown authenticity accompanied the email. Anybody else receive this offer? Anybody know this seller? FWIW, his feedback link shows him to be NARU at ebay.

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Dear:
We are archaeologist and explorer ,
we find the lot coins at benthal(From Taiwan to Singapore ). If you need in quantity, I can offer
trade price for you,
This is all find:
1873 cc------124 pieces---- $120 (of each)
1873 s------136 pieces---- $75
1874 cc------117 pieces---- $85
1874 s------133 pieces---- $70
1875 cc------121 pieces---- $120
1875 s------115 pieces---- $75
1876 cc------124 pieces---- $160
1876 s------133 pieces---- $70
1877 cc------116 pieces---- $180
1877 s------124 pieces---- $75
1878 cc------112 pieces---- $220
1878 s------122 pieces---- $75
If you need them, Please soon,If defer, The datas have alterant maybe.
We sell some coins by ebay already,I disremember the ebay fee and no payment, So been suspended by ebay,
You can see feedback of the coins yet.

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...ollecter1110

By the way,Now I am in China, I hope you can payment by westernunion or send cash to my address by UPS:
Ma Hong Wei
25 Dong Cheng Road
Xin Zheng, Henan, China
zipcode: 451100
TEL: 0086-13015523900
Thanks
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 Posted 12/15/2005  2:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have seen enough dangerous adds not to send 1 euro
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 Posted 12/15/2005  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I should also note that I have no intent to even think about ordering anything from this guy. Consider this topic as entertainment.
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 Posted 12/15/2005  3:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think there is a lot of difference between entertainment and intent to defraud, fraud, theft and mail fraud! Of course there is that one chance in a million this individual has been a victim of fraud himself/herself and doesn't realize these coins are more than likely counterfeit? None the less I wouldn't buy any coins (U.S. or foreign classics or key dates, from anyone, at this time in any Asia nation! You would be better off flushing it down the comode as, at least that way, you would know where your money went!!!
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 Posted 12/15/2005  3:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add catman to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Now is a good chance to study the dates she has for sale. These are the MOST COMMON dates to be counterfeited from the Pacific Rim. All are CC mint because of the appeal to the U.S. Collector and because the higher prices they would command if they were real.

I have seen some coin dealers who couldn't tell these coins were fakes. They are VERY GOOD..! Its my advice that you avoid these coins like you would hot lava.

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12/15/2005 3:35 pm
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 Posted 12/15/2005  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If it's "old" coins from China, why bother dealing?

Excellent counterfeit coins are coming out from Hong Kong and China.
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I get these types of emails each day. Your odds of buying counterfeits are 99.9%. I leave that .1% in just in case they actually mess up and send the original used to make the counterfeit.
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 Posted 12/15/2005  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got the same e-mail today
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Stay away, as far away as you can. This is a very typical coin scam from Asia. Mike
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 Posted 12/15/2005  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gary Burke to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I haven't received that particular ad, however I have gotten several fraud e-mails in recent days -- supposedly from ebay and PayPal. Can't be too careful anymore.

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 Posted 12/15/2005  6:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I get a lot of emails similar to this one every day. They are set to go to my spam folder and I report them to blue security and delete them.
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 Posted 12/15/2005  7:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by nohope587

I got the same e-mail today



Richard, that's just two of us so far. Given that the email came to my regular address rather than the alias address to which I usually receive spam, I would guess it was purloined off a coin site, but not CCF or other forum since our addresses are double-hidden. Same/same ebay. It may be from another auction site or from a coin catalog site; I'll have to give this some thought and research.

I also receive one or two " ebay" or "PayPal" messages per week, but these always go to my alias address which is the first indicator they're fake.

Fred

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 Posted 12/15/2005  7:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nohope587 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As long as the sender puts mycoins.us at the end of the e-mail address I will get it. So my First clue that something is not right is when I get mail addressed to nohope587@mycoins.us. This e-mail however was addressed to my correct address so the sender has gone to a little bit of trouble to research his potential victims.
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I actually did get that same email (twice). Both came to my coin community email addresses. This is interesting since I don't use my coin community email addresses on ebay. Go figure.

I'm so sick of spammers and scammers!

Just to put your minds at rest, it is not possible to get exact email addresses from this site. They are very well hidden and can only be accessed by an Administrator.
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 Posted 12/15/2005  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Morgan Fred to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So, it seems he (she?) is targeting coin collectors; in our three instances, reasonably knowledgeable coin collectors who aren't about to fall for a scam like this. It would make more sense if he targeted casual or non-collectors who would be more vulnerable. Of course, we have no idea how many of these messages he sent out, but it can't be all that many since he went to so much trouble to dig up addresses which are not easily found. Of course, he could be as dumb as his English is bad in his marketing strategy.
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I think he/she used babelfish to translate his ad the mail has that automatic translation feel to it. All they need are a few bites at the prices they want to make this profitable send out 1000 emails and get 20 bites at say and average of $100 each thats $2000 return for a couple of days work minus the few dollars for the fake coins. Using Google/yahoo clubs I could come up with at least 1000 collectors e-mail addresses in a few minutes.
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