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Help Penny 1987, Possible Error, Stamped A Minus Sign Before The Date -1987

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Hello, I found a 1987 penny with a possible error or rare error, maybe the only coin with this error in the date, it appears stamped -1987, a minus sign before the date, someone could tell me something about this

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I moved your post to the appropriate section for the proper attention.

That looks suspiciously like a zinc gas bubble. Just damage to the coin, and no extra value.

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@jmvnzla, first welcome to CCF. Second, yes while the placement is somewhat odd, that sure looks like a linear bubble in the plating. You may be able to partly flatten it if you press on it with a toothpick.
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The cents after 1983 were plated cents over zinc. Sometimes gas gets under the plating and makes a raised area. This can be on the fields or even across the devices.
Help-Penny-1987,-Possible-Error,-Stamped-A-Minus-Sign-Before-The-Date--1987
Sometimes they flow across the length of a coin:
Help-Penny-1987,-Possible-Error,-Stamped-A-Minus-Sign-Before-The-Date--1987
Called linear because they flow in a line.
Sometimes the surface of the coin will be rough.
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This is caused when zinc dust was on the planchet and got plated over the dust, leaving a rough surface. These will not press down, but gas bubbles will press down with a toothpick. Yours is most likely a gas bubble. It will flatten. If not, then it might be a die gouge. But none of these events warrant a premium. Sorry
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@Spence, Hello, thank you for the welcome, I have done what you say, I even try to crush it with the tip of a pen but it is still there, I will try to take a more serca image with some special equipment for that, I have reviewed the currency more of serca and It's not a scratch or a blow, it's not a bubble either, it looks like it's been stamped
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Ok good to know. As @coop mentioned, the other possibility is that there was a gouge in the die that struck this coin. Again, it is an unusual location, but no premium value.
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Great explanation Coop! Thank you for the education.

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It's because it was minted in 1987 BC, during the Middle Kingdom of Egypt. D stands for the Delta region of the Nile River.
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Odd coincidence, good eye!



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It's because it was minted in 1987 BC, during the Middle Kingdom of Egypt. D stands for the Delta region of the Nile River.

Now you're onto something. Just one problem: -1987 corresponds to 1988 BC. This is quite a discovery- it blows those Lydian coins out of the water.
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