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1846 Large Cent Found While Planting Flowers

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 Posted 08/26/2022  07:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add surfacewave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How do you identify which of the N-# of the 16 different die marriages for the small date 1846. The type of soil around the house was very sandy loam, which does not hold water for long. Another question, if a details was assigned would that be due to the color/toning? BTW I do have a couple of more coins to show laterthat I found working on the house.
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 Posted 08/26/2022  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add T-BOP to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hmm , I would tear the walls down ; You never know what the previous owners might have hid in that house .
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 Posted 08/26/2022  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ijn1944 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes, I'm piling on... Excellent find! I'm at AU53 with this one. Really cool.
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 Posted 08/26/2022  10:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
very nice find indeed. Looks to have AU sharpness. I think its a medium date not a small date.
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the biggest variation in the varieties of late date large cents is the date position. the dates were individually punched into the dies. every other detail was hubbed, and therefore identical. there can be die markers like tool marks, die chips, die cracks and other failures that make a die identifiable. late date attribution is an exercise in minutia. there arent any super rare varieties known for that year. I cant identify this one from the pictures. the book I use for identification is The Die Varieties of United States Large Cents 1840-1857 by John Grellman, Jr.
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 Posted 08/26/2022  3:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It appears that some other type of "seeding" was done in your garden. I would think that copper would corrode rather quickly in soil...but...stranger things can happen. Nice looking Large Cent!
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 Posted 08/26/2022  8:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
some large date varieties are fairly rare in the R-5 range
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Hmm , I would tear the walls down ; You never know what the previous owners might have hid in that house .


Funny you should say that. I had some remodeling done not too long ago and threw some shiny quarters into a void that was then sealed for the future to find - if they ever tear it apart.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  06:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wan to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice place
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Nice coin, but doesn't look like it was buried. I don't believe this story.

Good luck with it.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add surfacewave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Nice coin, but doesn't look like it was buried. I don't believe this story.


I have no reason to make up a story like that, and I did have a witness but you might not believe that either. Anyway here is some info on copper which you can look up. Copper metals resist corrosion but are not corrosion proof when buried in soil. It is very dependent on soil conditions. Copper develops a naturally protective film that forms on the metal's surface (cuprous oxide), but the film can be destroyed by various aggressive soils conditions which would cause a corroded copper coin . In general, soils such as clay, sand, gravel, loam, seldom possess the combination of properties that are associated with destroying the cuprous oxide film/patina in an aggressive manner.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  12:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarrsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
looks like a buried coin to me. I believe that you could find such a thing near an 1840s construction project.

i misspoke when I said there arent any scarce 1846s. there are several tall dates and 2 proof only varieties that are big premium coins. this coin is not any of those varieties as far as I can tell.
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 Posted 08/28/2022  2:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jerryc39 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
anyone else feel it looks like the medium date?
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It is the medium date based on the size and shape of the 6 in the date. I went off the PCGS coinfacts website which shows the differences.

Disregard my thinking it was the small date from earlier. The 6 is open in this coin consistent with the medium date, while the small date has a closed 6...
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