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 Posted 02/23/2010  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snitchard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

If I'm understanding all of this correctly I place the silica gel pack inside the zip lock back with my coin album? Will this hurt the album at all? Does this all still apply if I get the slipcase for the album? I thought the slipcase help prevent tarnishing and toning, etc?

http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/pro...case-34.html

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Rich
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 Posted 02/23/2010  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RPT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
IMHO some of this is overkill if you're storing your albums in a climate controlled environment with heating and air conditioning. I can understand silica gel and plastic bags in a fire safe or similar.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  11:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The slipcase supposedly helps, but it is still not air tight.

RPT makes a good point, which I brought up earlier, about climate control. If you are keeping them in a stable environment, then Ziploc bags and desiccants might be overkill. However, they certainly will not hurt.
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 Posted 02/23/2010  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Agosos to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I know you are talking about ASE and some people will shoot me for this...
I would rather a 100 year old coin with a bit of time wear rather than a coin that has been stored for 100 years in an airtight,watertight,pristine,I've been hiding in a drawer,condition.
If a person was to live like an above said coin,I'm sure other people would find them extremely boring very quick.I like a bit of history behind my coins.
Don't get me wrong,I do have a stash of uncirculated,proofs,etc,coins that I know will climb in value,but above all,its the coins that have been handed around,the ones with a bit of history,coins that have been in and out of the air,from a pocket, or a book that has been shown to every man and his dog, that I like best.
Give your coins a bit of love,take care of them,but let your friends have a look,even let them hold the coin,(i have friends that don't understand why we collect coins,but love holding ancients in their hands).You can get gloves for this.
Instead of saying"don't even think about breathing around these"show the coins a bit of justice,they are coins after all.Let it see the light of day,just don't let your friends with a slight touch of the palsy hold em,its when they have a nasty ding on them that you have to look out for,otherwise que sera sera...
My advice would be this,if you want you coin to "last forever", 1.don't use silica from a shoebox,you don't know where those little packages have been,2.keep the coin in it's holder and vacuum seal it,then stick it in whatever folder you like.

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 Posted 02/23/2010  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snitchard to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hello,

Wow this is some amazing feedback. I think for the moment I'm going to try the album with a slipcase in a zip lock bag. My "coin Cabinet" is in an environment that seems controlled. If in the future I notice a change in the coins I'll switch to an air tite album. Looking at Dansco Albums they seem very "pretty" and that is good too.

I agree with Agosos I like showing my coins off to trusted friends and family. I have considered displaying them in my house out in the open but because I don't have the space for that and because it can be risky if someone unknown sees them so I decided to keep them in my locked cabinet and pull them out when needed.

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Rich
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 Posted 02/23/2010  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What do you mean by "protect"? Albums will tone your coins.

If you like toned eagles ...go for it !
If you consider toning to be "damage", then you are playing Russian Roulette.


Utterly makes little CENTS you know. Just how would an Album tone, corrode, tarnish, etc. a coin? You must realize that without some type of gass, air or moisture for example, coins will just sit there and nothing happens. If you place an Album full of coins inside a Zip Lock Plastic Bag, push out as much air as possible, fold over the excess and seal, not much will ever happen to those coins. And note the more coins in the Album, the less air is left in place too.
Presently have over 100 Whitman Ablums in those and so far, no problems for many, many, many years. If something goes wrong in the next few hundred years I'll let you know.
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I am big on using ziplocks. There's no way this is "overkill", it's just plain smart, inexpensive protection. I don't care how controlled your environment is, temperature, humidity, and gas levels will change constantly. These all have negative effects on your coins. The giant ziplocks I buy are about $2 each....money well spent to protect your collection.
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If I'm understanding all of this correctly I place the silica gel pack inside the zip lock back with my coin album? Will this hurt the album at all? Does this all still apply if I get the slipcase for the album? I


Yes, put the silca pack right in the ziplock with the album. It will not hurt ANYTHING. Silca is very inert. Since the slipcase is not air tight, yes, you still want to use the ziplock and desiccant pack.
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 Posted 03/08/2010  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinundrum to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It is very tough to beat the Danscos. Built with quality material and display your coins with style!
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 Posted 03/09/2010  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I agree with Agosos I like showing my coins off to trusted friends and family. I have considered displaying them in my house out in the open but because I don't have the space for that and because it can be risky if someone unknown sees them so I decided to keep them in my locked cabinet and pull them out when needed.

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Rich

If you are in an area of absolutely no crime, no possible future crimes, then off course showing off your coin collection is fantastic. And out in the open where all can see and talk about too, it a wonderful feeling. HOWEVER, there are a few slight problems with this situation. Mostly, in almost every place on Earth, it really doesn't work nowadays. Natually there are a few places that you can lay out valuable items and not worry about them but really not to many.
It may not be your friends nor your relatives that are not trustworthy, but the ones they tell about your fantastically well displayed wealth. In most Psychology classes in college there is an experiment about how stories change. The professor whispers a short story to a pupil. The story is passed on to about 10 students one at a time. The last one stands up and now tells the story. It is almost always 100% different.
By the above I mean a relative of yours will tell someone they know about your coins. They in tern will tell others that will tell others until your fantastic collection on display is worth millions and it is open for all to see.
Such situations happend every day and the results can be really horrible. Just not a great idea with the ecomomy the way it is to display anything of value.
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 Posted 03/09/2010  10:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I am big on using ziplocks. There's no way this is "overkill", it's just plain smart, inexpensive protection. I don't care how controlled your environment is, temperature, humidity, and gas levels will change constantly. These all have negative effects on your coins. The giant ziplocks I buy are about $2 each....money well spent to protect your collection.


WOW Thad you must live in an exclusive area. I just had to run and look at the box mine came in and it is for 25 one gallon sized Zip Lock Bags for $3.50. Of course around here there is that 10.25% sales tax too. Don't know what size you use but those are what I use for my Whitman Albums.
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Very interesting topic, I had been looking for some new "zip lock" bags and found a new product, made by zip lock, it is bags of many different sizes, and then they sell a system.

I mean a vacuum pump that once I place an album in the proper bag, there is a slot in the top of the bag you simply place the pump over the slot, which has a cover that keeps the seal intact once the vacuum is done, and I vacuum every bit of excess air out of the bag.

These bags are like the regular bags, in that you can simply un-zip them and re-use them again and again, I also include the desiccant packets in the bags also, try it the pump and the "special bags" sell for less than 15.00 and comes with a starter kit of bags of about a dozen and have 3-4 different sizes.

I place two Morgan dollar albums in one bag and they fit very nicely, good luck, Mike....
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 Posted 03/11/2010  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add snook to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm going through my dad's old whitman penny albums. Geeze, what a mess. There must be some chemical in old whitman albums papers, it is full of copper sulfate now. Ruined a bunch of MS coins in there.
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I Had bought a Lunar Dragon 3 coin proof set off ebay, when it arrived the capsule that the 1 ounce was in had cracked and a couple weeks later it started to tone. Instead of zip locks I used those bags with the hole that you hook up a vacuum and suck the air out. I think they call them Space Bags or something like that. They sell for between $10-$20 at Walmart but I found a 3 bag set at Harbour Freight for $3. The coin hasn't toned anymore so I am assuming they work pretty good.
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 Posted 03/12/2010  06:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Jbuck that is a very good idea, I will probably start doing that because my room is quite hot and humid.
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