Dr.... AL Terd Surface

Both coins need to be dipped.

Still not to many posts or Ideas, What gives......I can only guess you all love the ebay fake toning, end rolls,,SUCH at thing as it is. SO many OBVIOUS doctored coins we all will love..can't see why there's a law suit .....He's going to get off easily with all the non-responseces

What makes the red toning, what makes the greens, what makes the yellows, the blues, the purples? There are hundreds, maybe thousands of correct answers for each. Anyone can do this, and it need not be done with liquid chemicals in a laboratory.

What is the difference between AT and NT anyway? Define that.

Take a few Morgans, put them in different colored envelopes, set them in the sun on your window sill for a few months, notice the reactions.

Did they tone at an accelerated rate from those that remained in your coin box? Was this process AT or NT ?

Take a hydrangea plant, add aluminum to the soil to lower the ph factor of the soil, the blooms will be blue. Now add lime to the soil to raise the ph, the blooms will turn pink. Other factors including temperature, fertilizers, and general plant health may also be contributing factors. If you don't add lime or aluminum to your plant, the bloom color will be dependent on the location of the planting, and the ph value of the soil in that location. Adding lime or aluminum: AT or NT ?

Place your pet chameleon in an enclosure of all green plant matter, what color will he be ? Now place him in an environment of gray rocks. I know this is quite different than coin toning, but try to think of things from a broader perspective for a moment. Just what is AT ? NT ?

Neon signs (as they are called) are things that are also rather eye catching, but most people don't really know what they are looking at when they look at a sign lit up in green. Is it neon? No, it is not. Green indicates Krypton gas, and that is what is used in these "neon" signs to give the green effect. Blue indicates Argon gas, and Neon gas produces red. Not so simple with the countless possibilities of 'corrosion' of metal (which, in my opinion, is all coin toning really amounts to).

As for lurking, I can't really believe that you actually said that, Gene. I certainly don't believe that you could control yourself to the point that you would become so sedate.

Asking questions, replying, challenging, commenting, are all tools to be used in the involvement and interaction of what interests you. If you simply lurk, you are subject to what interests others. It is not the nature of 'my' existence. I will engage in what interests 'me'. If the topic does not interest me, I won't even waste time lurking. I don't lurk. I realize that this is the personality make up of some folks, and I don't fault them for it, but I wish that they might jump in and see what they may be missing. It is great fun to participate rather than be an observer.

On Monday, I was in town coming out of the bank when a motorcycle gleaming in the sun caught my eye. I walked a few steps over to it, and stared for a minute. The owner came over and asked if I like bikes, and I replied "Not really". After a short conversation, he asked if I wanted to go for a ride. I jumped on, and came back on Thursday (yesterday). We traveled in the daytime, hit the honkytonks in the evenings, and slept under the stars. Never did any of that stuff before, but I had the time of my life, never regretted it.
Forums are for interaction in my opinion, lurkers are wasting the opportunity afforded them by membership.

Just asking a question here but can't silver be toned by heat? Say take a propane torch and just barely touch the flame to the coin for a short time.

I've decided not to lurk! LOL actually I have been out of town for awhile.
Many great responses as well as great questions...Thanks Nut for the Pics of natural toning we all see so often, and I can't help but agree with Zee's point about "Where do all these rainbow colors come" from when its a silver coin with a small amount of copper in the mix?
Dr Al has pleaded guilty in a private, although I can't post all of his methods, I can post the conclusion to the first photo's of this thread...




Up to now we have an Idea of examples of pictures of Natural toning.
as a result of interaction of its surroundings, Air,Canvas bags and Coin albums.. as well as a hint of where coins have been stored in Wrappers, books coin holders 2X2's safes , where the air can slowly get to the coin, interesting to note some have stored them in gun safes where they received a dose unwanted chemicals and unwelcomed toning. these other chemicals As Zee note's are responsible for some of the techniques to bring about Artificial Toning...Heat or sunlight
which could bring up the Idea of RE-Toning a coin, is it ok?

Oz

I picked up a BU 1987 Silver Eagle back when they first came out. It was a bullion buy only. I tucked it in a manila envelope and it sat there until I pulled it out last year. The colors were spectacular and the toning laid down like all the other natural toners I held in my hand ... integrated into the surface design and not sitting on top of it. The coin was gorgeous and toned equally on both sides.

Now we address the obvious paradox of "Is this NT or AT". It toned as a direct result of me encasing it in that brown paper for 21 years. Did I do this to intentionally apply toning to the coin ... no. The visual difference between it and the other two-sided toners I call AT is how that toning laid down over 21 years. I put an acetone-bathed Morgan in that same envelope and put it near a heat source. After four months the coin was toned but it was blotchy and sat on the surface of the coin.

Here is a beautiful coin with some fantastic dark gray toning (well, it is actually just worn and dirty, but humor me and pretend for a moment). Can you guess the VAM from these pictures? Probably not, but can you narrow things down? (Dancing fruit if you can figure it out).

Vam-2....Okay, excellent ! Now, how about this one?