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Pillar of the Community
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MKFarm... IMHO, you are doing a wonderful job in teaching your daughter. She's already learned to work hard, manage her business, and create a good share of her own living. She now knows that effort is required in order to live, which puts her MILES ahead of so many adults who do not. To that you are now adding some interest in investing. I do not know you or your daughter, so I have no right or reason to criticize what you are doing. Therefore, I am not going to join in on the silly rant that seems to be in progress. 
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Valued Member
United States
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Yes lets just congratulate a parent for thinking that if a kid loses 1800 dollars, its not a big deal.
that's what's wrong with America today
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Valued Member
United States
103 Posts |
i mean lets be honest.
If mkfarm came on here and said her daughter was investing 1800 dollars in vintage baseball cards without having ANY FEAR if she loses her money - you all would be COMPLETELY against it
But since she's investing in precious metals instead, something you all are biased against, your praising her.
The principle of the conversation still is that a parent feels losing 1800 dollars is completely fine
don't praise an act because you are biased against subsets of that act
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Great job you're doing with your child MKFarm...and I'll bet she doesn't grow up telling other people how to instill values in their own kids unless she is asked.
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Valued Member
United States
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maineman - please answer:
you think its a great job acting as if losing 1800 dollars is nothing
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3592 Posts |
What I think has nothing to do with the matter,I'll keep that to myself and congratulate him on what he has done right....I really think you took things out of context.
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United States
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I brought up the idea that I don't think its right to instill in a child mind that its perfectly alright to lose 1800 dollars in investing.
That leads to the future mindset of: "I can gamble a large amount of money away, and it will be perfectly fine."
What the OP is promoting is that one should not care if he or she loses a lot of money
The OP is trying teach the child about reward without risk - life would be a whole lot easier if everyone could walk into a casino and spend thousands of dollars without caring if they lose all their money.
OP, why invest if losing a huge amount of money won't matter
Investing in PMs is supposed to protect value. If losing 1800 dollars is perfectly ok, then there is no need to invest.
Not only is the entire logic flawed (investing to protect money when one doesn't care about losing money), but the mindset of losing 1800 dollars is "fine" is why children today do not know the value of a dollar, and lays out the foundation for future greed and carelessness
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Valued Member
United States
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just jumped back on to this thread to check out any other stories......sure has taken a bad turn......lets get back to the subject guys....not everyone will agree on investments because no one knows the future.....we know everyones not agreeing so rather than personal stabs at eachother lets focus on the pros and cons of the investing and go from there ;) just smile because you live in a country that allows you to be here and speak your mind with no fear of consequences!....you can invest and/or spend your money in stupid ways that could turn out to make you BIG BUCKS or you could lose it all(its america)....in the end you live in the perfect country!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I disagree with you having her put ALL of her money into an investment. What is that teaching her? Not to mention you are guaranteeing it for her, she won't get that in real life either.
Maybe you buy all the things your kids want, but my parents made us pay for anything we wanted: -College -Car -Insurance -Gas -Cell Phone -Going out to eat -Movies -Any clothes above Christmas/Birthday
Unless you're spoiling her and buying all of those things for her, I would have only suggested investing maybe half as a life lesson. But it is really cool you are teaching her those things.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"I disagree with you having her put ALL of her money into an investment." They live on a farm, she grows sweet corn and this is just a fraction of her profits.... I could be mistaken as I often am, Mkfarm simply taught here about Pm's showed her his charts and study's on the subject, and SHE chose to invest it.... My father buys vintage fishing lures worth thousands of dollars on the internet, ebay, etc.. I think it is fair to say most kids imulate their parents, as I took an interest in buying and selling on ebay as well. Different genres, but never the less....
Edited by Silverhawk74 08/02/2011 12:36 am
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Valued Member
United States
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Not to mention I'm horribly confused
You're saying she owns her own business, which according your math yields 18,000 dollars in profit a year ("1800 is investing 10% of her money")
My question 1) If she has a business (which she doesn't) why was she saving 1800 dollars in her room. For a 14 year old who''s making 18,000 dollars a year, I'm a little confused why you said she's saved up 1800 total dollars in her room. I mean someone who makes money from a job doesn't save up 1800 dollars doing "thrifty" things. Surely she'd have much more than 1800 dollars if "her business" is doing as well as you claim
And if you meant that the 1800 dollars is what she has left of her profits, your saying she spends over 16000 dollars a year....
so something doesn't add up
First you say she's saved up 1800 dollars total - 1800 total dollars that she owns
Then you give some story about how she has a business that yields 18000 dollars a year
So which one is it?
I think its your own farm, and she works for you. 18000 dollars of your farm profit may be from her work, but I don't believe she alone has a farm business (1st off because its not legal at 14) that makes 18000 dollars in profit
Sorry, your story just doesn't add up
Edited by Rbethell11 08/02/2011 12:34 am
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Valued Member
United States
103 Posts |
Silverhawk - according to her original story 1800 dollars was ALL of her money. it was only later posted after her post was met with objection that the OP said the daughter had a farm business that yields 18000 dollars in profit.
Also, mkfarm
You guaranteeing her all her money in case of a loss is not teaching her anything.
When someone walks into a casino they're not guaranteed all their money back in case of a loss
If someone risks their life trying to save someone from drowning, they're not guaranteed their life back in the event they die in the rescue attempt.
You're whole methodology is flawed and makes for NO teaching lesson whatsoever.
Ever here of the old theory that we learn from mistakes, rather than success...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
802 Posts |
Wow, looks like I changed the mood on this post. At least people agree with my logic :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1450 Posts |
Hey folks,take a chill pill!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3670 Posts |
She is 14, and already will have 1800 in Pm's. I think it is safe to say I wish I was that smart at 14. And she only has about a 25 year average advantage on most of us, and that average may be conservative....
Two grand put into Pm's a year from 14 to retirement would be some stash, and I would bet everything I got vs. the naysayers that she will turn a huuuuge profit when she cashes it in, if she chose to take that route. End of story....
Edited by Silverhawk74 08/02/2011 01:07 am
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