If It's Ilegal To Deface Coins, How Come People

The gold recall order as it was originally proposed did NOT contain exemptions for "Rare and Unusual" gold coins by collectors. The original order was going to rquire the turning in of everything. Fortunately Roosevelt's Sec of the Treasury was a collector of gold coins and he got Roosevelt to change the order to include the exception.

Law or no law about coins. There are really no special law inforcement agencies that run around arresting or doing anything to peope that deface or ruin coins. IF any type of law inforcement agent arrested a kid for putting a coin on a RR track, the news media would run such a story all over the country. People melt coins every day and nothing is done about that, law or no law.


That one got me too. Can't even picture that one.

Many Socialist countries also make it illegal to take their coins out of the country. For example Cuba, makes it illegal to take either their regular coins, or the special Inturist coins that visitors have to exchange their money for, out of the country. (On the other hand they don't mind exporting the commemorative coins that the sell for a high premium.) Makes it difficult to collect recent cuban minors.

*coughs*

Conder, what you and jbuck are both describing are communist countries. I know that Joseph McCarthy liked to use these two terms to mean the same thing, but none of us are Joseph McCarthy. Most things that are "socialist" are actually societal improvements--for example, our roads are created via public funds, and therefore everyone may use them; nobody has the right to gate them up and say "you can't go there" or to tear them down and go "nope, nope, I wanted to plant something there." That is a socialist setup.

The difference in theory has to do with how much is owned by whom (e.g. in socialism the government owns part of production and private enterprise owns part of production; in communism the Motherland owns it all and you don't have to worry about the paperwork, just doing your job), and in practice tends to come down more to levels of censorship. Most modern-day actually socialist countries (Sweden and Finland are the first two that come to my mind) don't have any problem with the free exchange of information. Please compare to the Iron Curtain and the Great Firewall.


Sorry, that swapping is a big pet peeve of mine.

I have no idea how allot of the stupid laws ever got "important" enough that they thought they had to have something in writing to avoid it from happening, all I know is they are there

I guess I thought this was common knowledge that this was what was supposed to happen at first and that is why I made the comment. If something like this would happen again they could carry it through as there may not be anyone there with enough influence to try or even want to get them to change it. So if they asked for them all to be returned and you didn't do so, they "could" make it a crime because they can recall them if they wish. I am not saying they ever will because when they did it with Gold the country was in bad shape, I am just saying I believe they can if they wanted to

I'd like to know about the "neither may continue til the other has passed" law--did anyone ever stop to think about this before putting it on paper?


And jbuck--it's all good, just a peeve of mine because people freak out if you even mention the words "social safety net" without realising that a social safety net is not a fast track to being the next China/USSR (Cuba is actually relatively functional regardless of whether I agree with their policies, so I'm leaving them out of this). I still maintain that the one politician who did the most harm to this country was McCarthy, and his damage is still being felt.

Big Circus at it again