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This "coin" has never been in circulation, but was created with a worn look to the Indian. They could have spent more time working out the denticles. The underlying metal shows around the reverse rim pretty well. 1877 Indian Head cent - counterfeit   |
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The stong 'N' in 'ONE' is a dead giveaway!
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Bedrock of the Community
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Agree, the "Bold N" is only found on proofs of this year.
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Not just the bold N the whole obverse looks silly
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Bedrock of the Community
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Someone did do a lot of work to make it look real.
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Although a fake it does look fairly decent. The N does give it away but any new collector who didn't know the diagnostics for the shallow N would probably think this is legit. Thanks for sharing!
-CH27
Collector of U.S. Coins, Varieties, and Colonial Coinage
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I guess I would have fallen for it.
If I compare the counterfeit with a F12 on PCGS Photograde, I really don't see much difference if anything at all on the reverse.
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I wouldn't of know it was fake. Glad I am reading through these forums.
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Nice counterfeit! Quote:
If I compare the counterfeit with a F12 on PCGS Photograde, I really don't see much difference if anything at all on the reverse. The "shallow" N in ONE is a good diagnostic for genuine 1877 IHCs.  |
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Quote:"Shallow N" as in Grease Filled Die N? Nope. All genuine business strike 1877 IHCs were produced from a single reverse die which had a weakly hubbed N in CENTS on the reverse. The only 1877 Indian cents with a crisp(ish) N on the reverse were the proof versions. |
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So the die was not made properly? Why didn't they fix that and made a new die?
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Bedrock of the Community
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It was not considered a faulty design at the time. It was the standard reverse before 1870, and used along side the new Bold N reverse in 1870, 1871 and 1872. After 4 years of the new Bold N reverse, the Shallow N reverse reappeared in 1877 for reasons not fully understood to this day, but most likely it was to get extra mileage out of this old undamaged die during a year when output was expected to be very low. The Bold N resumed in 1878.
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12/16/2020 8:12 pm
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The die is completely different, not an altered, worn or Grease Filled Die. There are 2 primary differences in these dies. 1.) the appearance of a Bold vs Shallow N 2.) the serifs in the letter E in ONE and CENT have a different shape. The Bold N look like trumpet horns and the shallow N look like sideways "T"s. Here is a link that shows the detail..... http://www.fly-inclub.org/shallow%20N.htm |
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The Bold and Shallow N varieties for 1870, 1871 and 1872 are generally easy to distinguish, even in well circulated grades.
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