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1889-CC Morgan Dollar For Your Thoughts - You Vs TPG

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I like the OP's coin's toning. What bothers me more is the gauge by the eye of Liberty in the HA coin, which unfortunately lies near one of the coin's focal points.
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VF-20 straight grade.
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Here's the holder. Thank you everyone for all of the feedback. I made the purchase with 30 day return privilege and $600 below the coin referenced by Numismatic Student.

Will be interesting to see what this looks like in hand. I purchased a 78-CC this last Sunday, already arrived, and in hand I think it looks much better than what was depicted in the seller pics, presumably due to lighting, exposure etc.

We all have our preferences, for me I like the toning and overall appearance on this coin more than the coin referenced by NS. I also find the significant hits to the nose, eye, and temple detracting, never mind the price differential.

Most of you know that my interest is in raw coins. However, for the '89, I decided to consider anything in PCI, SEGS, or ICG holders to be in the "raw" class. Hopefully I'm happy with it in hand. I've been looking, making offers, and bidding on some since last December.

Have a happy and safe 4th of July, all!

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Congrats on a nice buy!
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It's a nice looking coin. Hope you enjoy it in hand.
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anything in PCI, SEGS, or ICG holders to be in the "raw" class


thats interesting. something I never thought of but does make sense
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This finally arrived today. First set with normal lightning, second set with heavy direct lighting.

The cheek has a few reed hits. The darker toning pops a little blue tone in sunlight. My only concern are the obverse issues at 2 and 7.

The defect at 2 looks like metal has flaked off. The defect at 7 is clearly a rim ding. Pictures are the best I could do without a scope.

Do the pics change anyone's feelings on grade one way or another?

All thoughts and opinions are welcome.

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well the new photos are sharper. I'm bumping my grade to VF25.
i found several PCGS VF25's and one NGC and this one is pretty darn close.

the question is will the rim cause the coin to details. I think it comes down to how a TPG would assess K2. imo it was a planchet flaw that flaked off and should not details the coin. the small hit should also be ok.

i agree that this one is buy the coin not the holder and if you.
what are your plans with it? break it out and send to one of the larger houses? leave it? or break it out?
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Thank you for the updated photos.

I agree with Pan, it looks much better than before and I believe she is worthy of a grade bump.

The circulation cameo is even more appealing and the minor rim issues do not bother me, they remind me that a coin is doing its job.
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Thank you for the feedback PZ and JBuck

PZ, to answer your question, I was leaning heavily towards cracking it out and keeping it raw like all of the others. However, while the rim issue at K7 seems quite small, I'm a little leery of cracking it and finding rims issues there or elsewhere that might be considered details.

I have zero experience with or knowledge of ICG other than the general comments about the likes of ICG, PCI, SEGS and other 2nd tier services over grading coins and/or straight grading coins that should be details.

So I'm undecided at this point.
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Unless you are putting it in an album, leave it encased until you are more comfortable with making a more permanent decision.
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w/jbuck to hold off removing it.

imo if you have an album with other CC's I would seriously consider filling the hole. my reasoning is that anyone that is interested in a 89CC might come to the same conclusion that its acceptable. there will always be someone out there that would just ignore that down the road if you ever decide to sell it but consider this, if you are like most collectors, you spent a lot of time looking for and acquiring those coins and most likely are not going to sell them anytime soon. by then the price on this piece is going to increase to the point that even if it details the value will exceed the current value. on top of that there is a chance that the coin would grade 25 increasing the price even further. I cant see any reason why an 89CC would not increase in value over time.

let is know if you make a decision
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ICG does two things well. They are good with authentication and their slabs provide good protection to the coins. Their grading isn't a strong point.

Overall, this coin looks solid. The contact marks seem appropriate for the grade. The appearance is nice.

My only question is whether a possible corrosion spot has been removed below and next to the eagle's left wing (our visual right). The spot next to the wing may or may not relate to the surface conditions in that area. There may also have been a smaller corrosion spot removed next to the eagle' right leg (our visual left), but I don't see surface damage there. If spots were removed from these areas, they weren't removed recently.

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