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1892 Barber Half Dollar - Please Evaluate The Toning For Premium And Type

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Hello everyone and fellow coin collectors!

It would be greatly appreciated if you could weigh in on whether the toning here on this 1892 barber half (graded PR63 by PCGS) is considered monster toning. Also, if it doesn't reach that level does it still carry a premium? If so, how much would you say over the base price of the coin?

At the least, the coin is considered to have highly desirable original target toning. I have included the PCGS archival photo for when the coin was graded along with the obverse and reverse from my camera. I am open to all comments and appreciate any insight you have to offer.

Thank-you! Happy hunting!

I updated and add a ton of pictures - sorry still getting used to how to add pictures and didnt realize you can add a few together.


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to the CCF

I would say it is an attractive toning that enhances the coins overall eye appeal.

Hopefully one of our Barber experts will weigh in on whether this toning adds any value to the coin.
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Thank-you both for the welcome and your comments!! Fingers crossed that an expert will weigh in!
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your trueview photo is overexposed so not that good to help out here and your in hand photos the lighting is not very good to see the toning properly. it can be a challenge to photograph proofs especially in a holder. lay the coin on a flat surface. do not use any overhead light or flash. based on what I can see your coin would not be considered Amazing, I would place it in the Above Average toning box. it would not have added any bump in the grade imo.

here is some insight into how PCGS looks at toning for both MS and Proof coins

PCGS uses seven levels for toning: Amazing, Positive, Above Average, Neutral, Below Average, Negative, Ugly.

MS/PR68 - Must have positive eye appeal.
MS/PR67 - Must have above average eye appeal.
MS/PR66 - Cannot have below average eye appeal.
MS/PR65 - Cannot have negative eye appeal; can have below average luster/toning only if outstanding in all other areas

For silver coins, PCGS looks for:

Even, subtle toning (no splotchy or deep embedded color).

Strong, even luster (MS) or deep, clear reflectivity (PR).

Sharp strike (especially for proofs).

Minimal, acceptable marks that don't hurt the visual impact.

Meeting minimum eye appeal levels for the grade.

If a coin meets the technical grade but has poor eye appeal, it may be downgraded; conversely, exceptional eye appeal can boost a coin's grade

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I don't think the toning detracts from your coin, it looks pretty nice, but very hard to really tell from those photos. The Trueview is pretty bad for this one and doesn't really help. A video of the coin rotating under light would help a lot.
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Here is another pic
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Here is another
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And another
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One last one
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This coin is a chameleon though and this pictures are not capturing its true full color skin because each picture is a snapshot at a certain angle. Love when the reverse looks gunmetal but the wing has electric blue and the sheild has a hint of pink
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Here is another
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Beautiful coin
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Here is one of the reverse
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Another reverse
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Promise this is the last obverse
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