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 Posted 12/28/2013  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a Vivitar Triple Track bellows in M42 for a good price...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...hlink:top:en
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 Posted 01/05/2014  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This might be a little more expensive than true "el cheapo" however it is a decent buy. I have the same bellows lens..and it performs well....often that lens costs the same as the whole package in this listing( I don't know the seller):


http://www.ebay.com/itm/MINOLTA-100...em1e852971d0
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 Posted 01/19/2014  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's one that looks good, a Simmons EL Omegar for $25 with free shipping...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/23110396453....m1438.l2649
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 Posted 01/23/2014  08:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a Vivitar Triple Track for a great price. IMO the Triple Track is the best of the "low rise" bellows...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...B:SS:US:3160
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 Posted 01/23/2014  09:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Give away: If any one is interested I have a Minolta single rail bellows( SR mount IE: MC and MD lenses) I tried to sell it on ebay and had no takers..... I want it gone. If any one wants it they can have it for Free so long as they cover the cost of the postage and packaging. PM me if interested. I hope this isn't breaching any rules...but as I am not selling I hope moderators will be tolerant
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 Posted 01/23/2014  1:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Give away: If any one is interested I have a Minolta single rail bellows( SR mount IE: MC and MD lenses) I tried to sell it on ebay and had no takers..... I want it gone. If any one wants it they can have it for Free so long as they cover the cost of the postage and packaging. PM me if interested. I hope this isn't breaching any rules...but as I am not selling I hope moderators will be tolerant


I'm going to look the other way, I think.

The Vivitar Triple Track has sufficient performance to allow full-face images of Morgan-sized coins with a 75mm lens while also achieving unusable levels of magnification; don't let the "low rise" description (although accurate) sway you.
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 Posted 02/18/2014  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a B&L stereo microscope like the one I use on my desk for variety viewing.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/17124298057...RK:MEBIDX:IT

This is a fixed-magnification (2x) pod with 15x eyepieces, so you get 30x magnification. This is a good mag for variety identification, but you can change to 10x eyepieces for 20x viewing, or can add a 0.5x objective to bring you down to 15x (with big working distance), for a bigger field of view.

These fixed-mag pods get very little respect, and I've seen them sell for $20 without stand/eyepieces, yet the quality is higher than you can get with most Chinese scopes. An advantage to the fixed mag is the lenses don't move so there is less to go wrong with alignment.

You can take pics with these directly through the eyepiece or use an adapter. It's not what I do, but many swear by it.
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You can take pics with these directly through the eyepiece or use an adapter. It's not what I do, but many swear by it.


The guy whom I consider the "best" at capturing detail images at VAMworld uses this technique. With a decade-old point-and-shoot. It's only sharp in the center, but the clarity, contrast and sharpness of detail is breathtaking:

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How you gonna beat that?
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 Posted 02/18/2014  1:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow thats impressive it probably performs just as well as the lens in this finished listing(The final price was, IMHO, ridiculous):

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/281262267....m1438.l2649



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 Posted 02/18/2014  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Really nice result, and a testament to the "afocal" technique. Looks like he's doing fairly oblique side-lighting. This lighting technique shows off the surface finish of the coin pretty dramatically. Here's what a toned coin looks like with that technique, though I think my lighting angle is even more oblique:

edited to add...the image below was taken with a Nikon 4Plan objective. The Nikon M5 objective that folks have been buying as part of the "Under $400" setup will give as good or slightly better quality than this...

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By the way, that was actually a good price for the 12.5mm Minolta. However, you can get better image quality with an objective costing less than 25% of the price. The advantage the bellows lens gives is more flexibility in magnification range, but at slightly lower image quality as a tradeoff.
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 Posted 02/19/2014  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Am I the only one who lives in fear of information overload, based on the incredible completeness of detail modern technology allows us?
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 Posted 02/19/2014  6:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just thought I would throw out a few options for discussion.
I'm not buying, so each one is fair game. Enjoy.

Nikon EL NIKKOR 50mm 1:4
http://www.ebay.com/itm/33112908227....m1423.l2649

Nikon EL NIKKOR 50mm 1:2.8
http://www.ebay.com/itm/26139914919....m1423.l2649

Rodenstock EL Omegaron 50mm 1:3.5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/11128059432....m1423.l2649

EL OMEGAR 75mm 1:3.5 (Omega?)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/22137385099....m1423.l2649

BESLAR 50mm 1:3.5
http://www.ebay.com/itm/13103169735....m1423.l2649
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 Posted 02/19/2014  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rmpsrpms to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I usually only recommend lenses 75mm or longer because that's about the shortest that will go on bellows and allow full-coin imaging of Dollars. 50mm lenses can do Cents, maybe Nickels, but are too short to do Dollars on most bellows. That said, 50mm lenses are good for higher magnifications, and the range between 1:1 and 2:1 is tough to get right. There are few microscope objectives in this range, and the ones that do exist don't operate in the same way as their higher magnification brothers. So if you already have a 75-120mm lens for full coin shots, and need something to fill in the range above 1:1, then the 50mm examples Chute72 has linked to are good choices. Well, all but the Nikon 50/4. I don't really recommend that one. The 50/2.8 Nikon is excellent though.
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 Posted 02/21/2014  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Chute72 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Ray.
For my bellows setup, I already have a 135, 105 and 75mm lens.
A 50mm might be useful for VAMming details.
The 50/4 was thrown in the mix just to get a little feedback.
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 Posted 03/03/2014  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zaiko to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've been reading the other threads on here, and plan to follow something very similar to the "Under $350" setup. I bought my Canon Rebel XS already, but I'm unsure on the lens. Unfortunately, I don't know enough about lenses, though I have done what reading here I can.

What do you guys think about these? I'm okay with spending a little more if it's a better product. I honestly don't know enough to feel comfortable picking between which lens, and specifically what auction buy from.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LENTAR-75mm...em461bb28f27
http://www.ebay.com/itm/RODENSTOCK-...em2c7c0d894e
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SIMMON-OMEG...em51b261628b
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ENLARGING-L...em43c667eb2f
http://www.ebay.com/itm/EL-NIKKOR-7...em338b74a43b

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