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Where To Put A Chunk Of Change: Pm Vs. Etf Vs. Stocks

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 Posted 11/18/2011  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VetStudent to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd put that chunk in silver and see what happens in 6 months. What's the risk of silver dropping below $30ish in the next 6 months? I'd vote slim.
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 Posted 11/18/2011  9:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
will do ED and JSH, busy with other commitments at the moment so after I get my time cleared up a bit, i'll get to getting the ball rolling and post the results (all in between diaper changes)
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 Posted 11/19/2011  6:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Piffin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I chose physical PMs, but almost selected cash - not in the bank, but cash in hand. both because of short time frame and because of the precarious situ in Europe that could make USD rise short term
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 Posted 11/19/2011  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BullseyeBullion to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd buy Silver Eagles with all of it. As many as you can get. Getting the feeling that early next year will be a run and although you pay the premium now it will pay you more later. Eagles should catch fire with the 25th sets frenzy and spill over into the others, at least into the first half of next year. That should boost that investment a little more. Just one man's opinion.
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 Posted 11/20/2011  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ICanSeeYou7687 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Short term, I have been a little worried about gold and silver, they seem to be dropping a bit! And I just bought almost an ounce of gold (which is a LOT for me) so I've been a little nervous.

But all of my silver, and gold (mostly in silvertowne bars, ASE, 1/10 AGE), are for a long term investment. in the Long run, gold seems to follow inflation pretty closely, and with all of our debt, I cant see inflation turning around anytime soon.

But in the short term, gold and silver seem to be hopping all over the place! As far as what you should do with it? Well if you where gonna buy some PM's, and you know its for the short term, I think buying an ETF would be the way to go.... very easy to buy, very easy to sell. Downside? Well a 7-10$ commission fee (depending on your broker of course), and of course the 28% uncle sam is going to take out of the profits for tax purposes.

But, I dont think I would be comfortable investing in PM's in any kind of short term scenario. Thats just me though! Theres still so much I dont understand.
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 Posted 02/21/2012  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Update:

Bought into mining stocks in the end. Getting a trading account set up wasn't that bad. The Canadians have a Tax Free Savings Account that I capitalized on. Contributions are limited to $5000 per year, but can grandfather in contribution allotments starting from 2009. The best thing is that all earnings within the account are tax free. Earnings can be reinvested as well in a tax free manner. (the flip side is the net losses do not count towards your taxes either)

The 2 stocks I bought into are First Majestic Silver and Alexco, both Canadian mining companies with mines in Mexico. Averaging ~10% increase in value so far.. not too bad.
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 Posted 02/22/2012  10:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Newmismatist to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I chose ETF (say, GLD) over physical ONLY because of the short time span prescribed. I would not assume I could cover the spread in physical gold in 3-5 months even in an strong market. The spread in ETF's is much narrower . . . razor-thin, compared with physical. Otherwise, I would probably never again buy "digital" gold.
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 Posted 02/22/2012  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SilverEye to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why will you need it in 3-6 months? You might be best served by asking the person you are going to pay it to if they will give you a discount on your bill if you pay cash now.

I've saved 10% in various small retail stores a few times (not a coin shop) by paying cash. Be sure to ask before they ring it up, look all innocent and say "discount for cash?" I've got "no", "sorry everything has to go through the till today", "sure I'll knock 10% off if you don't need a receipt" and "sorry I only take cash". It's free to ask.
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 Posted 02/24/2012  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Pobox... you are really "rollin' them bones" on this one. I have been reading a LOT of info on the Internet regarding the PM miners and many of those who comment on this keep repeating that the miners are very undervalued and due to move upwards very strongly. Of course, they have been saying this same thing for quite a while now while physical gold and silver just keep on trouncing them. At some point, these folks will be right but who knows when that will be? Glad to hear that you are seeing a positive return so far, though. Hopefully, these two issues will do quite well for you.


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I chose ETF (say, GLD) over physical ONLY because of the short time span prescribed.

I agree with the reasoning here but would NEVER put any of my money at risk in either the SLV or the GLD ETFs. There are just too many negative comments on the net about how manipulated these are. I downloaded and read the SLV ETF prospectus and cannot remember ever seeing a more convoluted document in my life. If they were trying to obscure their activities and confuse prospective shareholders, they have succeeded admirably. IMHO, it would be better to go with a physical PM ETF or fund, such as the Sprott funds, SIVR, or PPLT.
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