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1869 Overdate Indian Head Cents

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 Posted 11/18/2011  6:26 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add centsdimes to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I am searching for an 1869 overdate Indian Head cent. Looking at ebay photos, it is difficult to tell if some of these coins are actually overdates. Can anyone educate me on how to determine the authenticity of these coins?
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 Posted 11/18/2011  8:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add beaglebailey to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would only look at certified coins, esp. in the higher grades, given the cost. At least then you will be sure of authenticity. The problem on ebay is that some of the pictures are so poor that the overdate is difficult to see.
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 Posted 11/18/2011  9:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add centsdimes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks.
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Yeah, pretty tough coin. beaglebaileys advice is good ;)
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 Posted 11/19/2011  11:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
One reason it is so tough to see is because there is no real 1869 overdate. There is a repunched date, and there are dies where chipping closes the bottom curve of the 9.
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That coin is one of those irritating things that is really horrible to distinquish. One dealer told me it was really an 8 over 9. Another dealer said it was a 9/9 sort of like Conder101 said. I've seen many raw ones at coin shows and would think I'd need a 50 thousand power Electron Microscope to see what is ment by 9/9 or 9/8 or whatever. I ended up getting one in a slab for my Album since there is a slot for that thing. Even the one in the slab was almost impossible to see.
Best keep away from ebay for that one.
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I do not know where I found this picture--maybe right in this forum--and I hope it isn't against the rules to post this picture, but this might shed light on the subject, if it turns out alright.

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Conder101,
Are you saying that when the coin was originally minted, chipping closed the bottom of the curve, or are you saying that when the coin was repunched, the second die was chipped and closed the bottom of the curve of the nine?
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During use the die chipped and joined the ball of the 9 to the curve above it. You can see on the picture you posted above the chip between the ball and the upper loop. That coin it a repunched date showing an 1869/69.
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