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Thank you Eddop, giano, jessvc1, JW, DV, echizento, & doug for helping me with my newly attributed Carinus, RIC325!  I plan to flip and catalog this beauty without further cleaning. To clean this coin I: soaked it in distilled water, boiled it in Gringotts's #2, and did little light pick work. To finish this coin to be flipped I had planned to: 1. Buff the coin with a dremel brush that has proved itself safe for the coins patina. 2. Oven @ 250 degrees for 15 min 3. Renwax and buff Had planned to renwax all of my coins; but I have noticed that the renwax slightly discolors desert patina. This coin looks like it has a strong protective black patina under desert patina. I am think I may just: 1. Buff the coin with a dremel brush that has proved itself safe for the coins patina. 2. Oven @ 250 degrees for 15 min 3.Flipping without renwax How would you finish this Carinus?    |
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Just leave the coin as is and do nothing to it.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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"Just leave the coin as is and do nothing to it."
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If you must do anything. I'd go for drying in an oven or under a light bulb for less than 15 minutes at less than 250 degrees. I prefer coins without Renwax but certainly have some that others have waxed. I like Dremel brushes used in hand but not under power. The desert sand already looks brushed so I'd not brush more. I don't use flips and would prefer you leave the coin out to breathe a while before enclosing it in plastic.
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United States
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This coin has enough details and still has enough desert patina on it to keep it looking nice and original good job as you found out it usually takes a combination of cleaning methods to get the coin you want. I think its time to add it to your collection now. I'm still waiting on my new coins to come in. I bought some with desert patina also and am going to leave as is. I think having a little bit of dirt on the coin makes it look more real and in the future if you show it to people it should take away doupts that it's a fake. I cleaned a few of my coins to the metal and people always ask if they are real or a copy. I dont like the fake patinas. I have tried paint, darkeners, and the olive oil always makes the coins almost a black color so I prefer the green or dark brown patinas better.
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United States
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Looks good, you could use some Renaissance wax on it to bring out some shine.
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Do you have the before cleaned picture?
If you soaked the coin in water for a day would it loosen the matrix a bit more? Under a microscope it seems you should be able to clean up the area around the guy on the right. It looks as if around the head you used a pin or pick. I think if you soak and very gently, almost no pressure - you can flatten out the "gully" and show a little more detail around there. I think it is always better to go wider than deeper when removing a matrix. I never cleaned a coin so I might be wrong.
It doesn't look like it needs a finish to me. For protection?
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I am going to simply bake the coin and flip it.  I like a little dirt. The coin has soaked for several months and I have used tools to very slowly remove the unwanted crud. The main tool I used was a diamond dusted dental pick (600 grit). Before pics can be seen in my previous thread requesting Help w/ attribution. |
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United States
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Does the OP mean flip as in plastic 2x2, or flip a house?
Either way, I'd leave it as is, except for a protective holder. If reselling, let the buyer spend the time and money to change it if they feet it necessary.
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United States
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Flip as in coin holder me thinks.
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Valued Member
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beautiful coin! but I could not stand not to clean off dirt! microscope, the needle, a scalpel with a lot of patience and attention, millimeter by millimeter. especially around the letters and portraits.
Of course I would do it but it is not necessary. coin is very beautiful and such. Congratulations.
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United States
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I will be putting it in a 2 x 2. |
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Australia
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TJsCoins:...I agree with you.
But how do you store your 2 x 2 flips?
I have found that over a period of 5 years or so, bronze ancients go very dark when stored in 2 x 2 flips stored in clear PVC album pages.
I need better album pages.
Update: I have found some clear PVC free album pages suitable for 2 x 2 flips, that can go in 4-ring binders. They are made from polypropylene. I will buy about 30. That allows for 600 coins. Actually, I need PVC free album pages for about 2400 coins.
Cost? about $1.30 per page. With the more valuable coins in the $50 to $1,000 range, that's cheap.
Edited by sel_69l
12/10/2011 05:37 am
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TJ - there is a small green spot to the right of the centre 'S' on the reverse. It could just be harmless verdigris but could also be the start of bronze disease, I'd remove this before I baked and flipped it.
As the coin has already been soaking in distilled water for a prolonged period if it is BD you have already done the right thing and many of the harmful elements that cause the problems will have been diluted. Baking it will reduce the moisture levels and if it is BD reduce the chance of it returning.
I don't know how Knowledgeable you are about BD but the basic rules are if the green deposits are tough and hard leave it alone if its flaky or gooey get rid of it. If in doubt once its gone I would wax this just to reduce the chances of moisture returning then flip.
There is a second green spot next to the 'A' in 'AVG' on the reverse but this doesn't worry me as much as the other green spot.
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United States
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Good eye bobbyhelmet!:) I think it was harmless virdigris but it was inconsistent with the surface so I decided to remove it. Soaked it overnight in water, a little careful wet scrub with a diamond dusted dental pick (600 grit) and now it is ready to flip!   |
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