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1853 Seated Liberty Half Dollar (Arrows & Rays)

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 Posted 12/15/2011  1:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, I just checked the mailbox and the coin has arrived!

As I suspected, the coin is much shinier in hand than is evident from the seller's pics (I've noticed this happens when you try scanning a coin instead of photographing it). It looks really nice in hand -- almost like a proof -- but when I took a high res picture of it, it became really obvious just how much cleaning/polishing had been done to it:

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You can clearly see areas around the various fields that are not as shiny as the fields themselves, and there are telltale scratch marks all over the surface. I don't know enough about the process to know whether this has been "whizzed" with a brush, but I hope this is just the result of being dipped and polished with a cloth.

Overall, the details are really sharp, which is what I was hoping for, and it does look really nice in hand as I said.

So, yeah -- I definitely paid too much for it. I'm happy with it, though.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  1:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I would return it, a polished coin is worth far less than even a cleaned/dipped coin. I realize that you may feel bad about returning something like that, but you should definitely get a better one for less. You won't regret it later since you won't be able to sell it for what you paid...not by a long shot.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the feedback, Shadow!

I'm probably a fool, but I'm going to keep it. As I said, the problems really aren't visible to the naked eye (other than the fact that it is too shiny) and I have no plans to ever resell it.

The seller only had 22 feedback (most as a buyer) so I'm willing to entertain the belief that he didn't know there was a problem with the coin. Again, I'm probably deluding myself, but so be it.

Since the seller kept sending me messages praising me for my keen eye and asking me to add him to my list of favorite sellers, I decided to send him the following in response:

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I just wanted to let you know that the coin arrived safely so you don't worry about it.

You mentioned in your description that the coin had "a nice light antique tone," but didn't say anything about it having been polished within an inch of its life to a mirror finish (destroying any original surface it may have once had in the process) and the pictures you included in the description definitely don't show this (I'm guessing you used a scanner instead of a camera, which explains the lack of reflective surfaces). The coin does have a nice amount of detail, which is the reason I bought it. I wouldn't have bid nearly so much had I known how polished it was, however.

I seriously considered sending it back for a refund and/or leaving negative feedback, but in the end I've decided to keep it and just leave no feedback at all. I'm hoping this was an honest omission on your part with no intent to deceive, which is why I'm telling you all this. I see you don't have much feedback a a seller and am hoping you will be more careful about this sort of thing in the future. And if it wasn't an honest omission on your part, well, I guess I'll never know, will I?

I trust you'll understand if I don't add you to my favorite sellers list.


I'd be a lot less forgiving if this were one of the professional coin dealers with feedback in the tens of thousands.

Ah, the joys of buying on ebay...
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 Posted 12/15/2011  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...but didn't say anything about it having been polished within an inch of its life to a mirror finish...




I bought a high grade bust half on ebay a few years ago for around $150. The pics did reveal a light cleaning (which I had no problem with) and it was advertised as AU+ details. When it arrived the "light cleaning" was actually a thorough polishing in an attempt to simulate luster. It was a polished XF coin.

That piece remains to this day the only coin I've ever returned from an ebay seller.
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 Posted 12/15/2011  3:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have to agree with shadow. You should return this coin for a refund. I would understand keeping it if it were maybe a $30 coin worth melt, but not this.
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