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 Posted 02/22/2012  03:56 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add murrellington to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Don't own these, just looking for opinions though on the grades. And have they been cleaned?

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The 1941 doesn't looked cleaned I see some questionable marks on the face, maybe from an old slide album or a wipe? Looks like great luster is still present on it MS65

The 1943 looks like it may have had a dip in tarnish remover some time ago, but is re-toning nicely, a few more marks on this coin I'd go MS62
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I agree with westcoin. I'd put the 41-S at MS64-65 and the 43-D at MS62-63. The 43-D does look lightly cleaned.
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The 43 looks cleaned, which means no to the MS, doesn't it?
If I'm buying, I'd call them both AU due to the marks. Nice reverse on the small-s '41.
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I am thinking a MS-63+ on the 41-S due to the hairlines across the face and a MS-62+ on the 43-D.
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I'm new to grading but I'm gonna give it a shot. How about Au 58 due to the reverese eagles breast and on the obverse, lack of definition on his hair?
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So you guys theink the first was not cleaned, but the second was? I was curious about the hairlines on the 1941 s.
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I think the 41-S was in an older wyatt Ramond type holder that used the plastic sldes, that causes the hairline scratches on the face in high points.

Too a coin being dipped as cleaned not to the TPG's that is not circulation, in fact I have it on very good authority that the top TPG's dipped coins for certain clients if asked, don't know if that is still a practice, but a top client were talking about $10k/month in grading fees or more, so they want to keep the business. This told to me was over 10 years ago, from a very reputable source, someone that worked inside at least 3 TPG companies.
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The hairlines on the 41-S do not appear to transfer to the fields but rather are on the high point of the coin, the cheek. Therefore I agree with the opinion that the hairlines are consistent with those caused by sliding a plastic insert in and out of an album.

They both look MS to me
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 Posted 02/24/2012  06:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add j_h_s to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 43 looks AU or circulated.
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