Help Needed Id's For Roman Greek & Byzantine Collection

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mcs New Member United Kingdom 35 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 06:13 am Hi All, I was hoping for some help identifying and valuing this collection of Ancient coins? I really have no idea where to start with Ancient coins, so any help is greatly appreciated. Below are the photos Lot 1 Obv. Lot 1 Rev. Lot 2 Obv. Lot 2 Rev. ADDITIONAL ENLARGED PHOTOS Edited by mcs 03/26/2012 08:16 am Report this Post to the Staff

Lenikas Valued Member United Kingdom 164 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 06:28 am Where do you got them from? I'm not sure but I think there are some fake coins in your lots.. Report this Post to the Staff
mcs New Member United Kingdom 35 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 07:47 am I guessed there probably were a couple a copies. One of the silver ones has an E stamped on one side and the other larger silver with ILVA in the legend does not quite seem right. However the rest seem fairly honest, although, like I mentioned, I do not know enough about ancient coins which is why I appreciate any help. Lenikas could you please be more specific in your answer as say which coins you think are fake? Report this Post to the Staff
Lenikas Valued Member United Kingdom 164 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 07:51 am i would like to look closer to all coins in the middle line of lot #1, I'm not good in this , but better pictures would be interesting for all of us Report this Post to the Staff
Lenikas Valued Member United Kingdom 164 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 07:53 am It is all about that ILVA legend, that looks undamaged. all coin is worn and legend stands clear. And not seems to be right. Report this Post to the Staff
mcs New Member United Kingdom 35 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 08:18 am I have added larger photos as requested. Speaking of the ILVA coin, it appears to be hallmarked 600, so I am guessing it is probably a contempory collectors piece. Edited by mcs 03/26/2012 08:19 am Report this Post to the Staff
mvojnovic Pillar of the Community Serbia (Srbija) 576 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 09:03 am I can help you with one coin. (I recognize some of the other coins but I will leave that to experts in Ancient coins ) In first set of "ADDITIONAL ENLARGED PHOTOS" bottom right coin is from Venice. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republic_of_Venice Its one venetian silver gross or Matapan http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coinag...ic_of_Venice On avers of the coin you have Jesus Christ siting on the throne with his name written in abbreviations. On reverse you have Doge of Venice (left) and Saint Mark (right, Patron of Venetian republic) holding banner. Along the banner its written DUX (Latin for doge) and left from Doge there is another inscription (That should be name of Doge crucial for determination of coin date but I cant make out what it is) Right from Saint Mark its written VENETI. And S.M. (That one should stand for Saint Mark) I hope someone here can tell you more. Greetings from Serbia. My collection on Numista page: 7500 different coins and counting... https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798 Edited by mvojnovic 03/26/2012 09:04 am Report this Post to the Staff
mvojnovic Pillar of the Community Serbia (Srbija) 576 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 09:08 am Oh and I forgot... Venetian gross should weight around 2 grams but their weight changed through time. My collection on Numista page: 7500 different coins and counting... https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798 Report this Post to the Staff
mcs New Member United Kingdom 35 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 09:31 am Thank you mvojnovic, I appreciate your efforts. For some reason I thought it was Byzantine? Report this Post to the Staff
mvojnovic Pillar of the Community Serbia (Srbija) 576 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 10:20 am Venetian coins can bee sometimes similar to Byzantine coins. You can see that eastern look. Although Byzantine coins usually have inscriptions in Greek and Venetian coins in Latin. My collection on Numista page: 7500 different coins and counting... https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798 Report this Post to the Staff
mvojnovic Pillar of the Community Serbia (Srbija) 576 Posts	Posted 03/26/2012 10:38 am And you can also mistake these coins with Serbian medieval coins almost identical as these Venetian matapans. There is a story behind this, Dante Alighieri in his book put Serbian king in one of the circles of hel as counterfeiter of coins. In that time (second half of 13 century) Venice blamed Serbia for forging their coins. Its not certain on with Serbian king Dante alluded (there are three possibilities) Serbian king used Venetian coins as role model because Venetian coins were famous back then in that part of Europe. (Everybody knew their value is stable). Serbian coins from that period are not consider as counterfeits because they had clear inscription that they come from Serbia, but they where very similar to Venetians. http://sh.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datote...ti_dinar.jpg As you can see main difference is in title instead of DUX its REX. My collection on Numista page: 7500 different coins and counting... https://en.numista.com/echanges/pro...hp?id=129798 Edited by mvojnovic 03/26/2012 10:42 am Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 03/27/2012 2:28 pm I can add a few IDs but not all of them. Lot 1 - Coin 2 - Constantinopolis City Commemorative. CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS / Mintmark looks like TRDotP It was made in Trier between 332/333AD, RIC VII Trier 543. Value will be low in this condition but it is nicely centred. Lot 1 - Coin 3 - Constantine the Great with a Sol reverse. IMP CONSTANTINVS AVG / SOLI INVI-C-TO COMITI / SF / PLN It was made in London 313-315AD, RIC VII London 10. Its a very nice example, £10 is what I would expect on ebay. Lot 2 - Coin 1 - Roman provincial from Alexandria, I'm guessing at it being Probus but I'm not an expert with these. Probably worth about £10. Lot 2 - Coin 2 - Roma City Commemorative. VRBS - ROMA / Mintmark looks like TRDotS It was made in Trier between 332/333AD, RIC VII Trier 542. Maybe £5-10. Lot 2 - Coin 3 - Probably Gallienus. Minimal value. Lot 2 - Coin 4 - Constantinopolis City Commemorative. CONSTAN-TINOPOLIS / Mintmark looks like TRSDot. It was made in Trier between 330/331AD, RIC VII Trier 530. Maybe £5-10. Lot 2 - Coin 7 and 9 - Looks like Constantinus II and Constantine. GLOR-IA EXERC-ITVS reverses, probably both from Trier. Report this Post to the Staff
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