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Pillar of the Community
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 Loucodude The first one is an Austrian Maria Theresa restrike thaler, made in the hundreds of millions in mintage. Worth only silver (about $20-$25) The three others look cleaned: The second and third are Chinese coins probably from around 1880-1900. I don't know how to identify them though nor do I know if they are real or not. The fourth I believe is from Taiwan. Sorry I couldn't be that much of a help.  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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these coins are commonly counterfeited.
Please check the weights; and whether they react to a magnet.
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New Member
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Thanks Peter. I will weigh them. What should be their exact weight?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Welcome to the forum, Loucodude!
1. Austria 1780-X thaler (restrike) - 28.07 grams
2. Japan 1912 (Meiji year 45) yen - 26.96 grams
3. Empire of China,Chihli province, 1908 dollar - 26.70 grams
4. Republic of China 1933 dollar - 26.70 grams.
I'd say the bottom two don't stand a chance of being genuine.
(Edit - forgot to put the denomination of the Japanese coin)
Edited by svslav
03/28/2012 9:02 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Along with the possiblity of being counterfeit, they all look like they were cleaned... with a brillo pad.... sorry...  |
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Pillar of the Community
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Aye the bottom two counterfeits are circulating everywhere. The other two don't look promising, but hey check the weight and check a magnet. :-)
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to my eye, they all look genuine- the denticles are all there, the stroke are correct, the colour is silver, not some nameless alloy. The coins are all silver, so silver value as a minimum. The Japanese one is worth at least $45, the Pei Yang Dllar at least $75 ( many more valuable varieties, which I can't look up at the moment), and the Sun Yat Sen dollar is a Minimum $15, probably more as silver. (Prices are for XF coins)
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Wow. Thanks everyone! So much help and useful information. You guys are amazing.
None of the coins react to the magnet. is that a good sign?
Thanks SVSLAV for the warm greetings.
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New Member
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Ok Everyone I have weighted them out and here it is:
1. Austria 1780-X thaler (restrike) - 28.1 grams
2. Japan 1912 (Meiji year 45) yen - 26.5 grams
3. Empire of China,Chihli province, 1908 dollar - 27 grams
4. Republic of China 1933 dollar - 26.70 grams.
What are the chances of the first coin being the rare restrike?
Thanks again
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Bedrock of the Community
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I wouldn't write them all off just now. They all deserve investigation, despite a real risk of them being counterfeit.
All opinions expressed here are a good start. Keep 'em coming!
My addition to the effort of investigation is advise to do a comparison ring test with known genuine coins.
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New Member
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Thanks Sel 691 for the info. but do you mean a "ring test" comparison?
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New Member
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I meant "what do you mean" ....:)
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Bedrock of the Community
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Simple test: Just balance the coin in question on the tip of a finger and tap the edge of it with another coin, and listen carefully. Do the same with a known genuine coin of the same type, and compare the ringing tones they emit.
NOTE: Carry this test over a multi layered blanket or similar, because of the almost certainty that the coin will fall. Some skill needs to be developed to prevent them from falling, but not a problem, if the landing is soft!
If you haven't got a similar genuine coin to compare, take them to a dealer who has. Besides, you will probably get another opinion on the coin in question as well!
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Posted 03/28/2012 6:48 pm
