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The Penny Is Finally Toast

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 Posted 03/30/2012  11:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KJL82 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a collector, I'm intrigued by the demise of the penny, always interesting to be around when something historical occurs. Plus, it gives a penny collection a special character much like a Large Cent collection.

As a military member, all I will say is I appreciate Harper's efforts to ensure we have the tools we need to do the jobs asked of us.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  11:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
TheHulk, we may never see it in our lifetime, however, I feel there will be a time in this Century perhaps, were all currency is obsolete. Think about it for a minute, how many of you take money with you when you go shopping? I only bring a debit card and a Visa, you can go anywhere, buy anything, and do anything with those two pieces of plastic.
I know the old argument about change for vending machines, under the table cash transactions, flea markets etc. Take the cell phone for example, payments can now be made via your cell phone. They've been doing it in Europe now for over a decade, and eventually cell phone's will be obsolete in ways of making payment's. They'll have micro chips installed under the skin of your wrist and all you have to do is be scanned!

What next...............Glenn
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 Posted 03/30/2012  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I only hope the US follows suit--it's a worthless denomination, unneeded for commerce.
I agree, but we tend to have less pragmatic people running things down here.

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It really is useless the nickle is not to far behind.
Agreed as well.

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They say the penny costs them 1.6 cents to make, maybe they should look at the process before cutting it out.
I am not sure about your costs up there, but down here we still lose money even if the materials were free. There is no fixing the problem with composition change and the manufacturing process is as cheap is it is going to get.

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They don't say the effect it will have on all of us, example; There will no longer be items at the store for $1.97 specials they will be $2.00 so you say it's only 3 cents but that's 1.5% increase on those items!
I am so glad to hear that the failure to grasp the concept of proper rounding is not just an American problem.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coingirl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Glenn is right, but already behind the times...
its all available already.. next vision? who knows...
But the only ones profiting big time from it are the banks...
they will spend millions to come up with software which calculates the interest you pay to the nickel UP of course...and they make sure the calculation will always have no cents on the end.

BUT, having not read the budget, does not producing a cent anymore make it also obsolete to have cents in paper commerce?
Harpers budget was nothing but a lame attempt to say something and redirect everyone away from the actual and more pressing issues. Namely to do something constructive.
tell me guys, When was the last time you actually had 400 Dollars worth of goods at the border? Customs did not care if you had 600, as it cost them more to collect than what they could have collected. AND, there is nothing worth buying out of the country anyway, unless you buy big......

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Coingirl,

I don't know about you but most of my grocery shopping, personal shopping, and I cross the boarder two times a week for gas is all cheaper in the good ole USA. I imported my c63AMG Mercedes from New York state and still saved $15,000 after it was all said and done. Even high end stores like gucci and Louis vuitton who set fixed prices are worth me driving over the boarder and purchasing there versus in Canada. The only thing I get cheaper in my own country is bullion and it's mostly because of a convience factor.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thehulk to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Agreed, swrbxxx. I haven't actually done a US shopping trip in over a year, but for a while there the wife and I were going every few months, spending right up to (and beyond!) the allowable limit. Increasing the limit to $800 per person for over 48 hour visits means no more deception over how much we really spent in the US. I can't see us spending over $1600 in a weekend! If Canadian retailers want us to spend more in Canada, then stop charging us 20-30% more than the same product in the US. I've seen some products with an over 100% markup. I'm a patriotic Canadian, but c'mon!
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 Posted 03/30/2012  12:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
There is a less expensive method to make the penny. Outsource the minting to China or India... and ship them to Canada on the next Walmart freighter.
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I agree thehulk,

Look at milk I can get a gallon of milk in the USA for the cost of 1 liter here, With grocery shopping I usually get 3-5x the amount I would have if I bought in Canada. Plus the bonus programs, grocery & gas promotions that run are phenomial.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  3:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow => so far I've managed to outlive the 1 dollar bill, the 2 dollar bill and now the penny ... in 30 years time (or so), when I'm on my death-bed, flipping through my coin albums, I wonder what coins if any will still be in circulation?

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With grocery shopping I usually get 3-5x the amount I would have if I bought in Canada
Just curious--but do many Canadians hop over the border for groceries--and do they face tariffs upon returning? Perhaps that explains why so many Canadians drive the hour to do their Christmas shopping here.
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Unless I read it wrong, but It doesn't say they will stop minting the one cent coin. It states the RCM swill stop distributing the cent as a start of a phase out.

Does this mean they will eventually get rid of the denomination all together? Will they continue to mint the coin for collectors as the 50 cent piece? Very few 50¢ coins are in circulation but they're still minted.

Will this go by way of the British Farthing and Half Penny where they stopped minting the coins, used them briefly after the stoppage then demonetizing them? It would be nice if they would mint a couple hundred thousand or so per year for collector purposes.


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 Posted 03/30/2012  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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they will spend millions to come up with software which calculates the interest you pay to the nickel UP of course...and they make sure the calculation will always have no cents on the end.
This is wrong. All electronic calculations and transactions will still be done to the cent.

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There is a less expensive method to make the penny. Outsource the minting to China or India... and ship them to Canada on the next Walmart freighter.
I doubt it would still get total cost of each cent below one cent. The big problem is the outsource vendor (China, India, whatever) would need to show a profit. This will add to the total cost and probably eliminate any savings from the cheaper labour.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  6:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Crockett to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With the 1 Cent being made of plated steel, the newer coins won't be around long, might be best start gathering more of the ms steel cents. Real hard to find coins from the 80's in MS condition.
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 Posted 03/30/2012  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add enworb to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In regards to losing money when rounding and not having 97c specials anymore:

Australia got rid of the 1 cent coin over 20 years ago and most item are still have 99c or 32c etc put on the end of the dollar amount. Just because the coin is gone doesn't mean stores will putting prices to multiples of 5c. You will not see a change in prices.

Where you will lose out is if you're paying by cash and even then it will be a maximum of 2 cents per transaction. I you're going to grovel of 2c you've got too much time on your hands. The electricity spent powering the computer to whinge about it has just exceeded 2c.

Anyway more and more people are paying via eftpos which will charge you the exact amount of the purchase with no rounding. If you are worried about the 2c per transaction then dont pay cash, use eftpos instead.
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Economically this may make sense. Though I will greatly miss coin roll hunting. The 1 cent has always been my favourite to search.
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