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Lion Silver Hemidrachm

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 Posted 04/05/2012  10:39 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
I'm considering buying this coin but I need some advice on it's authenticity. It is a Silver Hemidrachm of Chersoneso 480-350 BC Lion looking over shoulder. What do you Greek collector's think?

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 Posted 04/05/2012  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
From what I've seen, the fakes are normally well-centered and struck.
Aside from lion missing its face, the style looks a little sloppy--I would wait for a better coin.
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 Posted 04/06/2012  07:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

I can't really speak to it's authenticity but.......

There are quite a few of these around, if you search a bit you will find a nice one with good detail for a nice price. 75-100 even less if your patient.

http://search2.vcoins.com/results.a...d955260cd169
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 Posted 04/06/2012  08:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow jwharper, I really like your choice of coin ... and knowing me, I would already have purchased the one that you're considering ... but after gazing-through the coins from Doucet's link, I must agree with DVC and Doucet => there are a few far nicer examples up for grabs from those other dealers ...

... man, it's a bit like a recovering drunk wandering into his favorite bar and then merely "watching" all of his ol' buddies enjoying their beers! (NOTE => but I still haven't bought a coin since I purchased good ol' Claudius)

... but again, I think those coins are very cool!
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 Posted 04/06/2012  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the help and information. What with all the postings of Greek coins, I have an itch to own one. But I will bide my time until I find the right one and not jump in without consulting you guys.

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 Posted 04/06/2012  10:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree with DVColletor.
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 Posted 04/06/2012  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What was the meaning/symbolism of that checkered design on the reverse?
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 Posted 04/06/2012  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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if you search a bit you will find a nice one with good detail for a nice price. 75-100 even less if your patient.
For example, I bought this one off Denant for $36.

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What was the meaning/symbolism of that checkered design on the reverse?
I haven't found an explanation, but perhaps it's simply a design to accomodate the various minting symbols? Here's an interesting page on these coins.
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 Posted 04/06/2012  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
DVCollector: THAT'S more like it!
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 Posted 04/09/2012  10:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK, I didn't buy this coin, but I did buy this other from a trusted seller at a good price if the information you guys gave applies to it as well. It cost me $33 plus shipping. It is a THRACE, CHERRONESOS AR HEMIDRACHM:

Description:
Date: 400-350 BC
Rev: Lizard
Size: 13 mm
Weight: 2.40g
Ref: GCV 1605

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 Posted 04/09/2012  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice--it has most of the lion, and the lizard is interesting!
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 Posted 04/10/2012  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TJsCoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice pickup JW! I like the lion and the lizard!
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 Posted 04/10/2012  09:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a thought. It would seem that all the references to lions on Greek coins and in mythology that there must have been lions in Greece at some time. As far as I know, there are none there today, so what happened to them?
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 Posted 04/10/2012  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Doucet, you found just the right link!
With the prevalence of lions in crests across Europe,I wondered the same thing.
Either they were native at one time, and used as sport until their extinction, or they were imported for that purpose.
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 Posted 09/18/2014  9:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Maybe the Christians found a way to beat them.
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