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1941 Canadian Penny Die Rotation?

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 Posted 05/11/2012  9:50 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Hirock to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hey everyone! I just got my first 2x2s today and as I was aligning my 1941 penny, I noticed that when I aligned the date to be horizontal on the reverse, the the portrait of Edward VIII appeared to be rotated slightly compared to my 1944 penny. Is there a die rotation in the 1941 penny?

As you can see in the picture, the reverses of the coins are both aligned horizontally.
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But when they are turned around, the 1941 portrait appears to be rotated counter-clockwise, about 10 degrees when measured with a protractor. This is most easily seen with the colons between G and REX, which I have outlined.

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Sorry for the low quality scans, my camera isn't working right now. Thanks for any help!
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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...Hirock..To the forum

Your 1941 penny is rotated approx. 10.7%
Your 1944 penny is rotated approx. .3%

As they say on this forum, 15% or higher brings a better premium.

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 Posted 05/11/2012  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pennysaver to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
True. And you'll find that rotation in the 1940's pennies is fairly common. But welcome to the varieties club, Hirock!
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 Posted 05/12/2012  08:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Wert

What "tool" do you use to measure rotation?
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 Posted 05/12/2012  09:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Smallcentguy

I use a program called Shotwell...If you use Windows, the link below is for you.(FREE)

Remember that it only measures to a maximum of 15 degrees left or right of centre...But then anything under 15 is recycled pocket change and anything over 15 has potential...See picture below...click on "straighten" to do a measure.

http://alternativeto.net/software/s...form=windows



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 Posted 05/12/2012  09:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nickelsguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Welcome! The obverse is an effigy of George 6th.
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 Posted 05/12/2012  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hirock to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yep my mistake, the obverse is George VI
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 Posted 05/12/2012  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks Wert. Will have to try that out.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  12:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dvereckis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I recently came across a die rotation on a small cent as well and was wondering how much the rotation is and how such errors effect value? I made an equal line on both sides of the 2x2 holder to align too since its nearly impossible for me to line up the coin perfectly otherwise, the marks can be used for proper orientation.

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 Posted 05/13/2012  09:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi Dvereckis

As you can see from the picture below, your coin is rotated approx. 13.6 degrees....15 degrees or more would fetch a higher premium.


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 Posted 05/13/2012  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think so. I don't think that the 1944 is going to worth a lot.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dvereckis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks its the most rotated I've come across to date and was hoping it hit that mystical 15 degrees, especially since it was in such nice shape for a roll find.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  9:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey Dvereckis

Even if it isn't worth enough to buy you a car, I would keep it.
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 Posted 05/13/2012  9:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dvereckis to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm definitely keeping it I would like to build a collection of all error types, it may not be the best rotation but it is my best rotation.
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