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 Posted 06/23/2012  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Frazzle to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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, I didnt cry illegal, I cried taking advantage of the unknown...u endorse this?


dsfreeworld....Grading is Very subjective,If this guy says its VF and I agree,wheres the problem?

If you want to protect consumers,heres a site you might be interested in

http://forums.consumerreports.org/n...btag=cr-home
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 Posted 06/23/2012  2:22 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A coin is worth what one is willing to pay for it. Yeah, there is a FMV but, how bad you want it?
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 Posted 06/23/2012  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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A coin is worth what one is willing to pay for it.


I was just about to say that.

Also theres FMV and ebay FMV. Numismedia, RedBook ect dont account for the 10 percent sellers fee.

This coin is still high but agree with the above posters that by no means does this coin even remotely resemble a deceptive buyer situation. Those cases are largely with defective products or medicines that dont work that were covered up and sold anyway. Saying something is VF when its really F would not begin to approach that standard.

I also agree save the reporting for fake coins or flat out listings that lie like saying something is silver or gold when its not. If youre standard is just to report things that are overpriced youd have to report half of ebay listings as a whole
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 Posted 06/23/2012  2:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinHunter53562 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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This coin is still high but agree with the above posters that by no means does this coin even remotely resemble a deceptive buyer situation. Those cases are largely with defective products or medicines that dont work that were covered up and sold anyway. Saying something is VF when its really F would not begin to approach that standard.


Agree 100%. We don't know what the seller has into the coin, but also that's not our business. It's his coin, he is free to ask whatever selling price he wants to. With grading being so subjective, one could call the coin VF, another VF+ and then others may say F or even VG.


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If youre standard is just to report things that are overpriced youd have to report half of ebay listings as a whole


This is so true. One would literally have to report auction after auction and do it non stop for days, and still wouldn't even hit the tip of the iceberg. The bottom line is that reporting an item because you feel it's overpriced is equivalent to filing a frivilous lawsuit. It's a waste of time and accomplishes nothing. I won't say any more on this subject as I think I have made it pretty clear how I feel about this particular subject. :P
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 Posted 06/23/2012  3:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Agree 100%. We don't know what the seller has into the coin, but also that's not our business. It's his coin, he is free to ask whatever selling price he wants to. With grading being so subjective, one could call the coin VF, another VF+ and then others may say F or even VG.


If we could sue over disagreements then I need a court order for PCGS to reholder some of my 69s as 70s

But I definitely agree with everything you said. Theres a big difference between wanting to much money and actual fraud
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 Posted 06/23/2012  3:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add donkrx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Why report this?

They can ask any price, and describe a coin any way they want other than using a numeric scale which is reserved for ebay approved TPG's. Sounds fair to me. I'm allowed to say my coin is beautiful if that's what I think. I can also say it is "very fine" when really its a mint state coin. If I showed my sister an MS65 coin, she might say its "perfect". It's all a matter of opinion and everyone has a right to their opinion.

As for the price, look at it the other way ... as a buyer, you are allowed to offer any amount you want. Do you not lowball sometimes when making offers to sellers? Of course, everyone does that... as a buyer, we all want the lowest price possible, and as a seller we want the highest we can get. That's completely fair.

If you look through the ebay history of completed listings you will see that basically none of these massively overpriced items sell... so don't worry about it.

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 Posted 06/23/2012  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add donkrx to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Yes, we should educate ourselves but we should equally rely on so called experts and pillars of the selling community to not deal in half truths to the unsuspecting.


Dude, that's what TPG's are for. If you don't like it then only buy certified coins.
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