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Official "Post A Counterstamp" Thread....

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 Posted 04/10/2018  09:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wossip to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone know the significance of the counterstamp on my 1806 British Third-Guinea?(7 shillings).
It seems to have an 'S' over a horse which is running right, over a numeral '5' on its side, with a dot below. All in a small ornate heart-shaped cartouche.
Not just a casual stamp, I believe, but, in view of the amount of detail on so small a stamp, an official one.

SEE: http://goccf.com/t/314233
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 Posted 04/16/2018  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1c5d7n5m to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is another example of a counterstamp made in 1572 or 1573 in the province of Holland during the early days of Dutch Revolt against king Philip II of Spain; in fact this procedure represented a 10% tax collection in order to pay for the cost of warfare

The host coin is a Philipsdaalder from 1563, minted in the province of Overijssel, Spanish Netherlands

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 Posted 04/16/2018  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lasercats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I found this 1818 Coronet Large cent in change when I was five.

It is counter stamped twice, it is holed, and it is beat to heck... I guess that is expected after being in circulation for 187 years.

If anyone knows anything about the counterstamps let me know.

The counterstamps are "J. CONANT" and "B", the B seems to be carved by a knife.

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to the CCF, Lasercats. COOL find!

Brunk listed J. CONANT in his book on American merchant counterstamps, catalog # C-794. To my knowledge, there have been seven specimens reported, and this would be the eighth. Of course, more specimens may be out there. Here are the notes from my database ...

PER BRUNK, J. CONANT WAS A STOVE AND WOODEN PLANE MAKER. BORN IN 1773, HE MOVED TO BRANDON, VERMONT IN 1796. JOHN CONANT OPERATED THE BRANDON CARTWHEEL CO. THAT MADE CAST IRON STOVES IN 1820. HE WAS GRANTED A PATENT FOR AN IMPROVED STOVE ON 12-13-1823. ALTHOUGH HE HAD A SON, JOHN A. IN THE BUSINESS, "J CONANT & SONS", THE DATES AND TITLE SUGGEST THAT THESE C/S'S WERE ISSUED BY THE FATHER. THE LATEST DATE HOST COIN IS 1827.

Here is a pic of one of two Conant counterstamps in my collection ...

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 Posted 04/16/2018  9:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lasercats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow! Thanks for the info ExoGuy! That is great to have! Was the coin you have dug? Also may I ask how you knew that 7 had been reported, was it from a database or just from having connections through the forums and other collectors?
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 Posted 04/16/2018  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ExoGuy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Lasercats .... The Brunk book, last edition published in 2003, lists all specimens reported by collectors. He lists all dates and types of coins that bear counterstamps. I built my own database and update it when new specimens surface. It's by no means an exact count, but it does give one a relative idea of rarity. My one specimen appears to have been dug but not by me. I've not as yet photographed the other Conant coin which does not appear to have been dug. Where was your coin dug? Vermont?
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 Posted 04/16/2018  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lasercats to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No, the funny thing is that I found it in change 12 years ago in New Jersey haha.
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 Posted 05/14/2018  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add da Swampster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
...several hours later:

Looked through chafemasterj's collection last thing last night and spent a very productive (eye roll) day thusfar going through the entirety of this thread.. Cool counterstrikes, and Exo is just a fount of information thanks to among other things his access to long out-of-print materials and personal dedication to research..

Anyhowww, I'm just finishing up when I get my mind completely blown riighttt here --> http://goccf.com/t/126486&whichpage=42#2665798 <-- on Page 42 by spruett001 via chafemasterj.. The bottom of the next-to-last panel holds the key..

I relocated to my current state and county of residence a bit over thirty-four years ago, and due to life events being the way they are at times I have neither any family nor relations close or distant remaining in the primary locations mentioned therein.. However: I and all my siblings were born & raised in Uniontown and are graduates of Uniontown High School; my father received his BA from Waynesburg College and First Federal Savings and Loan was/is the first non-locally owned-and-operated bank to begin doing business in Uniontown..

Coincidence, you ask..? Absolutely, sez I..

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EDIT & PS: A couple folks were asking where to get hardened steel design punches.. Although I've not used them, yet, what appears to be the best place I've been able to find through online searches as far as choice, good prices, willingness to deal with small order customers etc. etc. is concerned is Steel Stamps Inc.. Not sure what the rule is on these types of links so I'll longhand them:
www dot steelstampsinc dot com ..
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 Posted 05/14/2018  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chafemasterj to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks. Glad you enjoyed my thread. I'll have two new additions in the next couple of days. It just keeps growing.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
http://goccf.com/t/303507
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 Posted 05/14/2018  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add da Swampster to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It really did blow me away when I saw it here.. If it's in your grouping I probably skimmed over it if there are a bunch of carded ones in a row..

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Ahhh! I made the connection you were referencing. The bicentennial counterstamp on the card from your hometown.

Sometimes I need a good slap to wake me up.
Check out my counterstamped Lincoln Cent collection:
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