If Genuine, Perhaps A Bargain ... But A Big If !

I have to admit I haven't seen very many of these and have never seen a genuine example of one in hand but I think this one may have some problems but I don't see anything that is jumping out at me and screaming that it is fake to me.

IMHO, calling into question a coin's base metal isn't akin to practicing metallurgy on the internet. With a coin such as this appears, the question, the skepticism, is simply a logical one.

Herbie ... Before sending this item in to be certified, perhaps you could find someone to perform a specific gravity test. This would not harm the coin, and would indicate the presence or absence of silver. If it fails the test, you might then return it "under the wire."

Some years ago, I purchased a "kneeling slave" conder token at a flea market in Florida. It looked to be silver, and the seller told me it was a copy. I thought it a good buy at $10. I found that it had a silver ring to it. A numismatist friend performed a specific gravity test three times and confirmed my suspicion. I've since had it certified.

ExoGuy,
I think there may be some confusion.
I showed my dug Shilling, HistoryFan is the buyer of the auction coin.
If the auction coin has seen some outside time, it's appearance is inline with
18th C silver I've seen, that patina that resembles lead can tricky.
If this coin was listed with a proper weight, I'd throw $600 at it.
Someone mentioned the auction coin had a poor strike, Mass silvers were for the most part poorly struck coins, a step up from a Cob.

I believe the earliest issues of NE's and Willows were Hammered.
Later a new tech 'Rocker Press' was employed, My Pine displays the S curved planchet that results from this type of strike, is proper weight and diameter.
The die crack is an almost sure sign of authenticity, and the amount of other period items I've recovered in the area leave me no doubt.
I'll show a Noe-1 struck before mine with the fish crack around date.
Your Conder token is intriguing, I only see reference to Copper and White Metal varieties, please tell me more about it..
(And I just love a bargain :))
Can't wait to hear about weight and composition of the auction coin!
Great Topic... HH all, Herbie.

Herbie ... Thanks for correcting me! Must've had a senior moment or else lack of sleep given an upper respiratory issue. Gotta watch it.

That shilling of yours is a beauty ... museum quality! My conder token is slabbed, and I'm not good at holder pics, but I'll see what I can do.

Keith ... Sorry to have addressed my thoughts to the wrong guy! I do think that judd1552's suggestion sounds good; this, instead of or as a supplement to the specific gravity test.

Will keep all your suggestions in mind, as I continue waiti Thanksng for this coin to be in my possession. Thanks, Keith

Received the coin in question earlier today. Turns out that after taking out this coin and realized immediately that the feel was wrong. I dropped it on a hard table, it 'clunked' rather than 'pinged'. It did turn out to be lead. I was able to bend it quite easily, nicked the edge slightly with my fingernail, and was able to write with it like a pencil. It measures 26mm across and weighed in at 4.6g, too much for an authentic one. Yes, it left me very disappointed, however after contacting the seller, she felt bad, telling me she knew very little about coins and promptly issued me a refund. I am sending the coin back to her in the morning. Guess I lucked out on this one.

I had hoped for better news..
Seller deserves great feedback on this Trans
for the refund.
Thanks for sharing your story !!

Looks like an old reproduction to me. I believe it was coated with some type of lacquer or something. If I work it enough with my fingernail in the area of the silver colored section just where it starts to turn dark, I can actually wear it down to the base metal. I didn't want to do anything more to it. I wanted to keep it pretty much the same, as I received it. I did send it back just moments ago. This one was quite the educational experience I must have to say.