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1800 Dollar - Advice Needed Please

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I'm just glad any day I can beat sSuperdDave to a variety attribution!
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Quote:
I'm just glad any day I can beat sSuperdDave to a variety attribution!


And you rarely will, because I know better than to ever step near your specialties for fear of immediate embarrassment.
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Well, you know this one isn't too hard to attribute. And isn't she a pretty lady, though!
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I have to admit, I didn't even click this when I first saw it because I just knew it was going to be another one of those spaghetti haired fakes and actually thought the same thing when I saw the value that was given. Then I kept reading and saw the first pictures and still thought this one is going to be one of those fake coins but kept reading. Then I saw the bigger pictures and then it had my attention. I had already seen one dotted date before so I knew what that looked like and I didn't see anything that made me think this one was one of the many fakes we get here on this forum. I am glad this is one of those rare times that we can possibly give someone some good news about their draped bust dollar, it is truly a rare occasion
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Agreed Bryan1315 ... I am but a cheerleader on this coin ... personally lacking the knowledge to contribute to the authentication but interested in the outcome.

That said ... the valued impact of the CCF family is evident in the pages written above ...

True experts have opined and rendered their views ... a new member troyster has received professional guidance ... and all such interactions were given freely in the spirit of volunteer contribution to the world's coin community.

It all makes me very proud to be a small part of the CCF community that continues every day to make this magic happen.

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Nickelsearcher said it best.

Troyster, and congratulations!! I hope this interests you in the hobby as a whole--what a way to start!!

Please keep us posted on how the grading goes.
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This is a candidate for Third Party Grading for several reasons. It look like the real deal, and if it is real it is very valuable, more so in a TPG holder than raw. Unfortunately there are lots of counterfeits and it becoming harder and harder to sell raw early type coins. If your intent is to sell, you can contact a major auction house like Heritage and they will examine the coin and arrange TPG submission if you sell through them.
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You know, it's funny. At the Philly show this past week, I got to see a beautiful English silver groat from the 1480's, with a portrait of the monarch, King Richard III. It was older, rarer, and easily as valuable as the dollar we're all admiring here, but I could hold it in my hand, because, of course, it wasn't sonically sealed in a plastic slab to guarantee its value. And no British numismatist would feel the need for it to be. Ironically, we're now presented with a fine American coin, free from such bondage because it's spent the span of all of our lifetimes in Great Britain, and the first impulse of so many of us is to lock it up in plastic. I'm just saying...
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Looks very nice and compares well with this piece that brought $4600 on Heritage recently: http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?hdnJu...3936&x=0&y=0

Does need a trip to PCGS or NGC to be sure.
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Hello again,
I e-mailed The London Coin Company, who replied to say that they were indeed a PCGS associated company and they would be sending coins there for grading in September, if I wanted to include mine. So I think I'll do that.
I'm also going to take it to The Edinburgh Coin Centre, to see what the chap there thinks. He seems quite knowledgeable.
Thanks so much for all the advice and the friendly welcome. I'll update you on what I discover about the coin.
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Hello again, thought I'd update you all.
I took the 1800 dollar to The Edinburgh Coin Shop today, and he has authenticated it as genuine, and graded it as Very Fine. Good news!
He offered me £1500 cash for it, but I'm unsure whether to sell it to him to avoid the hassle of sending it away to PCGS and then having to auction it with fees etc.
He said the coin is relatively common in the US, and to achieve much more money it would have to be in mint condition.
What do you all think?
Any advice gratefully received.
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1500 pounds seems a bit low, as this coin is well above very fine. Realistically, this is probably worth about 2x that. There is some risk with an auction, but for myself, I would see it far more likely to bring more then 1500 in an auction, even after the fees.
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I agree, 1500 LBS seems very low. Your looking at much higher than VF in my opinion.
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He graded it between 20 and 40, and said there is a fair bit of rubbing where Liberty is. Maybe it looks better in photos than in reality. I thought it was almost identical to one a member provided a link to earlier in this thread, and it was graded 45 and auctioned on Heritage.
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Agreed. Big price difference between VF and XF and even more if it grades AU, which I think it very well might. What stands out to me is that the eagle has some feather detail above the shield and that is usually only seen on AU specimens. IN XF, this coin is worth around $4000. If it grades AU, which I think it might, this coin would retail around $7000. Now if you lived near me, I would stop by and offer you $3000 for it, but sadly, Scotland is a bit too far. Basically, the only way I would take 1500 quid for this would be if I had a very pressing need for the money today, otherwise, I am going to get it graded and take it from there.
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