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 Posted 09/07/2012  10:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The only problem with true end of the world scenarios is even if you are right the world still ends. And reality is then more practical things like land for gardens and bullets and guns start superceding PM values. Just my opinion.
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 Posted 09/07/2012  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Shirayasha to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you sell when the prices hit the 40's, just know there is a chance you may not be able to buy back in at a lower price. silver may not drop below 40 again at that point. just because it did before does not mean it will again. The Hunt Brothers are not cornering this market, what we have here is a more legit silver market. dont expect the price of silver to drop 30 bucks after you sell.
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 Posted 09/07/2012  11:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tripncoins to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Short term = don't plan on selling.
Long term = $100+
Until then, I'm stacking.


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 Posted 09/07/2012  11:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add starbuxinvestor to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So if you wouldn't sell in the 40's you guys must be buying with both hands in the lower 30s?
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silver may not drop below 40 again at that point. just because it did before does not mean it will again


No but before the financial stuff silver had established its value in 10-20 dollar range. Id buy even up to 25ish from industry. However 40-50+ no way not now.

Countries will go out of their way to get it down if they have to as that will be a detriment to financial markets. A lot of electronics have it in it and it would drive the cost of the goods up a lot and further hurt any chance of recovery. If they have to manipulate the market to get consumer goods moving again they will.

Its looking a lot like it did in the 80s running up to the election. Year before big spike, settled down for a bit then spikes again. In the 80s the right guy won to settle it so well see but many more things point to itll settle back down to at least around 30 than stay in the 40s 50s for good
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so if you know the big countries will pull the market back than there is no reason to sell when it gets high because you know the market will be fixed and drop within a short time anyway. 40+ and I'm gonna start researching ways to sell. I dont really want to use ebay. too many fees. possible here. but I really like to walk away with the cash.
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I would like to see silver rise a few more dollars and then unload my 40% Kennedy halves. Why I didn't do it last year when it was in the 40's I don't know.
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One reason why I have bought ASE is they seem to be easy to sell compared to bars or rounds. Am I wrong?
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so if you know the big countries will pull the market back than there is no reason to sell when it gets high because you know the market will be fixed and drop within a short time anyway


Thats exactly why you would sell. Make the money then get it back.


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One reason why I have bought ASE is they seem to be easy to sell compared to bars or rounds. Am I wrong?


No youre right. ASEs are some of the easiest silver to sell
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A question for those of you that have set a sell price. If silver continues to climb past your selling point towards the $150-200 range, at what point past the price you sold at will you start buying again? Or will you sit on the side lines and not participate hoping it goes back to below where you sold?
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I think there is a difference between a climb and a spike. A few dollar rise each week indicates something is not quite right with the market and that it may, not will, be profitable to sell some and take the profit, later reinvesting it back into the pm when prices are cheaper, thereby gaining more oz than you would have had
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Countries will go out of their way to get it down if they have to as that will be a detriment to financial markets.

Yes, they will. But as the USSR found, economic law can only be subverted by bureaucratic fiat for so long before it re-establishes itself.

Silver could very well enter a supply-demand crunch one of these days. When it does industrial users who MUST have it will be bidding against each other for physical silver and the paper price be hanged. THAT is when we will see true price discovery in the silver market and not the machinations of governments and bullion banks. $1000 per oz. silver is not a question of "if" but one of "when". None of us knows this, however, so it could be in 4-5 years or 4-5 decades.

If you think that the previous paragraph was pretty far out, consider that gold is now selling for $1735 per oz. When I was a kid, it was selling for $35 an oz. If anyone back then had postulated that gold would rise nearly 50 fold in the next 50 years, they would have been branded as completely out of touch with reality. Unfortunately for some, reality has a habit of puncturing even the most closely held beliefs.

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If silver continues to climb past your selling point towards the $150-200 range


Like silver said a spike and a climb should be treated differently. If circumstances change and it climbs every day for a while Ill wait longer than just a quick hit at 40. A climb to that height though will take several months if not not years without their being bigger issues. It would have to sit there for quite sometime before I considered it for anything other than numismatic coins and probably need to be because of industrial use for me.


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Silver could very well enter a supply-demand crunch one of these days.


Definitely agree they could only hold it down so long especially if that happened. I dont however believe we are at the point or even that close to that point at the moment (at least a couple years away barring changes in circumstances) and do believe they would be able to get it back down for at least a time. There will always be panic sellers who bought to high and then see it falling and are worried about losing even more trying to salvage what they can
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I dont however believe we are at the point or even that close to that point at the moment (at least a couple years away barring changes in circumstances) and do believe they would be able to get it back down for at least a time.

You could well be right about that. The trends in silver are pretty clearly bullish. The long-term future for silver looks extremely bright and is one of the reasons why so many of us find buying this metal so attractive. What the timing will be for a lot of this is absolutely unclear, though. Buying and holding a little silver at regular intervals looks good to me. I don't want to be jumping into and out of the market all the time. It is possible to make money that way but it is also possible to get creamed that way! When the price of silver goes WAY up, those who sell on the way up, hoping to be able to buy it back cheaper, will not be able to get back in again. Until this happens, they will be able to play the ups and downs of the market. They just need to be aware of the fact that this market can and someday will turn on them when they do not expect it. Because of this, it might be a good strategy to continue to hold some silver when some is sold... just in case.

Something else to consider is the problem of scale in the silver market. Most of us can buy small amounts of silver pretty much any time we want but need to understand that this is not the case for the big players in the silver market. Those who want to buy a million ozs. or more are having a tough time getting it. From their point of view, silver is tight. If this continues, it could work its way down to smaller and smaller buyers. While this is not affecting us at this point, it could be on the way to our buying level and sooner than any of us thinks.
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I don't want to be jumping into and out of the market all the time. It is possible to make money that way but it is also possible to get creamed that way!


I couldnt agree more. I dont plan to jump in and out for a long time, I just feel safe doing it at the moment. What happens in November could however change that sentiment.

I only plan to unload my bullion ASEs and the 5oz bullion pucks and generic rounds. I want to get away from the generic silver anyway and turn that back into ASEs or something like that so if I can make some money doing it its an easy excuse to cross it over.

Im not however unloading all my silver. Ill still have silver mint sets, some numismatic silver, and graded silver State Quarters and modern commem sets. I wouldnt unload the numismatic coins, but the State Quarters and some of the modern commems could quickly be passed in value by a big spike that under the right conditions I may have to think about it long and hard, at the very least could sell the more common ones at such a price.

I also agree that silver does look very bright and personally I would much rather see a slow climb because if we do hit a huge spike that sustained with the rise of everything else in price well end up being down overall unless you have a massive massive silver stock to unload and even then eventually the increased prices will overtake the money you made on that
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