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Little Bored .. Thought I Would Break Open Some Proof Sets

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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I disagree about no real value on the non silver coins. I have pulled quite a few DDO and DDR's from Mint and SMS Sets. 1960 and 70 Small dates; any 82 and 83 coin.

Also Mint Sets are great way to find potential high grade coins. Try looking up what some MS 68/9 Clads go for; from the 60-70s.

Now I realize that if you are the type of collector that can spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars, without breaking a sweat, for mint and proof sets at slightly over face and then dump them for face, at a loss; well then.....Sure it is understandable if you don't want to take the time to look for varieties or coins with a value under a couple a hundred dollars. But then why collect coins? I in no way mean any disrespect. But; why not just write a check and get a complete set of whatever you want? Or just buy certified coins and crack them out? It would be cheaper. Wouldn't it?
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 Posted 10/20/2012  8:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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why not just write a check and get a complete set of whatever you want? Or just buy certified coins and crack them out? It would be cheaper. Wouldn't it?


Then buying some mint sets and cutting them up?
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 Posted 10/20/2012  9:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add acloco to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I prefer to by coins from mint sets. But, it can be hard to find quality from these sets as well.

30 years ago, my coin dealer in Great Falls, Montana, used to have a 35 gallon tub that was full of mint and proof set coins cut up as individuals. LOTS of fun picking through them. I wish I had bought the bucket!
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 Posted 10/20/2012  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I am seeing some unexpected but interesting replies.
I did not mean to hurt other members feelings by not collecting the same way they do.

I guess my way of collecting could be wrong, I will try to do some self reflecting and see if I can change my ways to make everyone happy.

I have only been collecting since 1968, and for the last two years I spend 4 or 5 days a week helping out local coin shops.

My intentions to posting this thread was to see if others liked breaking sets the same as I do.
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 Posted 10/20/2012  9:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GR58, all ways of collecting are valid. What you are doing is not wrong, just hard to wrap my mind around.

I to break open sets. I do it all the time to fill my albums or look for nice varieties. And I do like it. Being the first person to touch them. Knowing they are truely uncirculated. It's a kick, no doubt. It's just opening them to dump them at a bank that makes no sense to me. Especially when you could probably roll them and offer them here for a small premium and they would go like hotcakes. That and it would net you more money towards your gold set.

Again, I, for one, meant no offense. All ways of collecting are valid. I have been collecting since 1965 so I guess we must be close to the same age. I wish you good luck in your collecting.
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 Posted 10/20/2012  10:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I find this opinion very interesting


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I disagree about no real value on the non silver coins. I have pulled quite a few DDO and DDR's from Mint and SMS Sets. 1960 and 70 Small dates; any 82 and 83 coin.

I never said there is no real value to non silver coins .. and I do break open silver sets along with non silver sets.
I also 2x2 all 1970 S small dates and 1960 small date (proof and mint) coins. As for the 82 and 83 coins .. we are pretty safe there .. they did not make sets those years .. well except the gift sets from the mint .. I guess I would break those also .. and keep all coins above cent.
you are correct I am not into minor varieties. If you don't mind sharing .. would you mind sharing which DDO or DDR's that you have found .. I do have a 1972 Lincoln DDO but it did not come from a set .. I got it by trading coins.



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Also Mint Sets are great way to find potential high grade coins. Try looking up what some MS 68/9 Clads go for; from the 60-70s.


I did take your advice and do see some of these coins trading at good prices. I am not into that type of collecting, but I will look into it. Thank you for the tip.

When I do see very high grade coins in sets .. I put them away.

I know I have more non silver sets than silver ones.
For me it is getting hard to find better coins to upgrade my Jefferson and Roosevelt sets.


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Now I realize that if you are the type of collector that can spend hundreds or even thousands of dollars, without breaking a sweat, for mint and proof sets at slightly over face and then dump them for face, at a loss; well then.....Sure it is understandable if you don't want to take the time to look for varieties or coins with a value under a couple a hundred dollars. But then why collect coins? I in no way mean any disrespect. But; why not just write a check and get a complete set of whatever you want? Or just buy certified coins and crack them out? It would be cheaper. Wouldn't it?


I have learned, there is no way to know what other people are like, just from reading a few of their post. I consider myself a very middle class collector. I do have to plan and save for purchases of coins that sell for over $500. I enjoy breaking sets open and putting modern sets together, it would not mean as much, for me, to just write a check for a set.(of course it has been 20 years since I wrote a check) Lastly buying certified coins and crack them out .. I can't imagine how that would be cheaper.

Not sure how anyone could think buying mint and proof sets at or a little about face value, could amount to much of a loss. Let's say I buy $95 face value of sets for $100. Break them and keep $10.00 face of the coins that I need for a set, or really like. At that point I dump the $85 I don't want, now I have $10 face of coins I like, that cost me $15. If someone thinks that is a big loss .. then why collect coins?

The whole trick to this is having a good relationship with local dealers, that would be willing to sell their extra sets and such a low price. The last four states I have lived in, I have found dealers that have made these same deals. So I know others could do the same ..

I wrote this response .. with hopes of some understanding of how there are different ways to collect coins. With no intention of hurting anyone's feeling.
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 Posted 10/20/2012  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
jmkendall I guess I was typing my last post, and did not see you had responded.

I was just using your post as a example, as it was similar to others that don't understand this type of collecting.

Maybe if I put it like this .. my style of collecting is just like roll hunters .. I have just a little more control of what coins I am looking through.
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 Posted 10/20/2012  11:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add talkcoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just bought a Jefferson, Roosevelt, Washignton and Kennedy Dansco with proof.... If you put together a lot 1 of each coin from your leftovers from all of the denominations above... I will gladly pay you more than your bank does, and you would be helping a fellow, younger (32 yrs old) inspiring to be a numismatist, CCF friend

PM me or let me know where to send the check or PayPal payment

Thanks and the above posters who say "to each man his own" in regards to collecting coins... I agree, we can do whatever we want with them as long as we don't break the law.

Erik
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 Posted 10/20/2012  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Lastly buying certified coins and crack them out .. I can't imagine how that would be cheaper.


As someone who is working on a few slabbed sets, there are very few instances were a slabbed coin is cheaper and certainly not than a mint set if your looking for more than 1 coin or MM
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 Posted 10/20/2012  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jram to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Im a new collector and I have a few mint and proof sets but was hesitant to break them open but after these posts I'm going to crack em open! Whats the best way to open them without damaging the coins?
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 Posted 10/20/2012  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add basebal21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For the uncirc sets that dont have the hard case just cut them open with scissors carefully and handle them on the edges. For the hard case someone else will have to help with that one I've never done it but I think the newer ones you can pop open
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 Posted 10/21/2012  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Whats the best way to open them without damaging the coins?


The best way I have found is to take a screw driver (a fine one) and wiggle it in the joint on the side till it opens, be sure not to push too hard or you can go right through and hit a coin.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
GR58: the no value comment was not directed at you, it was directed at the statement of another poster that said there is no real value in post 65 sets.

Basebal21: the remark about the slab vs proof set/mint set was based on the observation that there were many many multiples of the same year. If, for instance you were buying multiples of the same year in order to find a a high grade set ( which was my assumption of what was going on here...lol...and I was wrong), then it would be valid to simply buy the slab. There are lots and lots of MS69 slabs out there for modern proofs; for less than $5. I have a whole set of PCGS LMCs that I bought for an average of $5 each. I paid a bit more for the 60 small date, on the other hand I bought several for $3 shipped. I do think it more economical for proof sets, but maybe not with circs.I guess it would depend on how high you want to go in your grading.
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 Posted 10/21/2012  3:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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f you don't want to take the time to look for varieties or coins with a value under a couple a hundred dollars. But then why collect coins?

I have jugs I put all of my change in that I get and when they are full I take them to my bank and dump them. I never ever look at the coins for any varieties or errors or whatever. The reason is simple, I am not interested in any of these on Modern coins. I am a variety collector in the Morgan series but I would get bored looking through my change searching for something to "keep" thats worth a little over face value. Now if I happen to throw the change in the jar and see something that looks weird while I drop it I will fish it out and see what it is but that is a very rare occurrence and it is usually just some type of PMD. Most of the coins in my collection is worth 200.00 and up and some way up from that and pocket change just has no place in my collection. Maybe if I was one of those unfocused hoarders like my grandfather was then I can understand but I am not one of those types and I have no place to keep everything like he did (well actually he had so much he didn't really have room either, but he kept on keeping everything). When my Grandfather died there was allot of his coins that he had kept for years that ended up being dumped at the banks by some of his heirs and I feel that was money he could have used to do something with while he was here with us instead of just collecting every coin he came across (it looked like he did anyway)
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 Posted 10/21/2012  3:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coindog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If you still have some of them I'd take them off off you.
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