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Coinage123 Valued Member United Kingdom 449 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 3:01 pm Hello all! I know by now you must be getting sick of my posts asking for ID's hence I'll make this short and sweet. This is pretty much the same story as the ones I asked for yesterday however these I cannot make head nor tail of these two. All I will say is kudos to whom that can ID these two peculiar little pieces... Report this Post to the Staff

bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 3:06 pm Quote: I cannot make head nor tail of these two Heads: Tails: Unfortunately I can give no further help Report this Post to the Staff
Coinage123 Valued Member United Kingdom 449 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 3:19 pm Haha! May be I should of worded it differently. You never know that maybe the guy on the coin decided that he would be different and mint his coins with the head the wrong way round...lol Report this Post to the Staff
Coin Addict Valued Member United States 110 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 3:50 pm I love the bug eyed king holding a mug of grog. I know nothing of the origin of these coins, but they are intriguing. The first one is most curious the way it's struck on a much larger flan. I wonder if that was a mint error or intentional. At any rate thanks for showing them to us. I hope someone can identify them. Report this Post to the Staff
VisigothKing Pillar of the Community United States 4778 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:05 pm Its Byzantine, Bulgarian, or something else Byzantine-inspired. I don't really know anymore than this... Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:16 pm I think the second could be MANUEL I but not got a 'bingo' yet Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:21 pm Bingo! Manuel I Comnenus (1143-1180) (Half?) Tetarteron http://www.acsearch.info/search.htm...iew_mode=1#0 More research needed to confirm 123s coins denomination, mint and authenticity but this is it Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:24 pm Quote: I know by now you must be getting sick of my posts asking for ID's hence I'll make this short and sweet. Dont worry about it, IDing these things is by far the most interesting part of the hobby for most of the people here. I cant really make anything out on the first coin, a Byzantine expert required I think Report this Post to the Staff
Ben Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 4208 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:29 pm Wow - a pretty valuable coin then! Report this Post to the Staff
Coinage123 Valued Member United Kingdom 449 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:29 pm Excellent! Thank you so much; kudos to you. Would you say the manuel I is worth £20? Report this Post to the Staff
Coinage123 Valued Member United Kingdom 449 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:46 pm After careful scrutiny I personally would question its authenticity as the centre symbol should be in-line with A and K however this one isn't. I cannot find an example which matches this. Edited by Coinage123 12/12/2012 4:47 pm Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 4:49 pm Quote: Would you say the manuel I is worth £20 Well they do seem to have sold for the $100 mark in worse condition, some others (cheaper) here: http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/git...Default.aspx http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/git...Default.aspx http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/git...Default.aspx http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/dmi...Default.aspx http://www.vcoins.com/en/stores/edu...Default.aspx Of course our friend Ilya is selling a few 'highprice' examples: [eBayItem]320632188656[/eBayItem] [eBayItem]350555411955[/eBayItem] [eBayItem]320632188121[/eBayItem] [eBayItem]320632188332[/eBayItem] [eBayItem]320632188910[/eBayItem] Also a couple of poorer ones on the Bay: [eBayItem]130808714802[/eBayItem] [eBayItem]140890915549[/eBayItem] I'm going to try and send you a PM 123. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 5:07 pm Quote: After careful scrutiny I personally would question its authenticity as the centre symbol should be in-line with A and K however this one isn't. Remember, lots of different dies all hand cut. I cant say yes or no authenticity wise with these, know little about them. I did look at the seller though, seems OK, his BIN prices are also not too bad, certainly for some of his collections of coins. Quick glance but I didn't see anything in his shop that would put me off. Report this Post to the Staff
bobbyhelmet Pillar of the Community United Kingdom 2838 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 5:10 pm Quote: I did look at the seller though, seems OK Actually, forget that, I've been looking at someone elses ebay shop Let me know if you get the PM via Email. Edited by bobbyhelmet 12/12/2012 5:11 pm Report this Post to the Staff
Coinage123 Valued Member United Kingdom 449 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 5:35 pm Received and replied BTW 200 posts! yey Report this Post to the Staff
echizento Moderator United States 23731 Posts	Posted 12/12/2012 5:53 pm The second coin is indeed Manuel I Comnenus and is Sear #1977, I see nothing wrong with it being legit. The first one is going to be a bit harder to ID. It's a clipped trachy which are seen mostly from 1204 to 1261 the time of the Latin rulers. The legend on this coin is one I can't figure out, I think it might be from region of Bulgaria. Report this Post to the Staff
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