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Poll Question
between grades 1 and 70, how many points would you deduct if a coin has been dipped? (not rubbed 'n scrubbed clean, just dipped)
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Pillar of the Community
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now that's a good question... Humm in some other thread this came up as cleaned or not.. To me it is still cleaned and some should come off. maybe a point or 2 depending on how bad it looks...
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No points should be deducted if a circulated coin has been dipped.You should have asked what percentage of normal price would one pay for a dipped coin.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
Edited by DBM
01/15/2013 10:28 pm
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Canada
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 with artdio! Each coin should stand on its own merits. An old, moderate to slight dipping is okay for me on Earlier Coins, where uncleaned examples very, very rare. In this case, no points subtracted. An overdipped coin, with no luster, no dirt and with horrid toning (gray-black hats for example) should have a minimum of 20 points subtracted. For me, everything depends on the cost and the severity of the dipping. Edited by Windchild
01/15/2013 10:34 pm
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United States
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Outstanding poll, been wondering about the consensus on this topic for a while now.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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AMEN, DBM! You too, Windchild!
The grade refers to the amount of wear and NOT alteration of the surface by dipping.
A technical ['wear' or 'details'] grade plus a description of any cleaning, dipping, scratches, etc. is the time-tested
way of determining MARKET value.
Your opinion may differ.
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Pillar of the Community
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Whoops... I thought he meant market value  Mine was a reply for that  |
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Canada
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It totally depends how much (if any) of the lustre was destroyed in the process.
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And that, Pokermandude, is why eye appeal is important. A technical grade with poor eye appeal is not worth buying. Difficult to sell even years later. Nowadays I only buy coins which have eye appeal, no matter what the grade: https://goccf.com/t/137735 |
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so what is the difference between dipping and conserving? the skill of the dipper no more no less
that blast white 190() you have........has been conserved. LOL
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I voted 1 but would have voted 0 if it was an option for the reasons stated above. Dipping and cleaning are two different things. Is acetone considered dipping or cleaning? The dipped coins that I have seen have increased luster over pre-dipping. In many cases dipping adds to the eye appeal (silver coins for sure).
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Ok so call me a dummy but what are all those guys dipping coins in ? Is it not some form of acid ? a chemical compound meant to remove part of the surface of a coin? Therefor enhancing the coin ( dipped ) is altering so points should come off ..The amount would depend on the amount of dipping for sure as stated in some replies
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Valued Member
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I've witnessed dipping first hand. An ugly George V half dollar with crud all over it was dipped(literally in an out) and rinsed in water immediately. It came out blast white and to the naked eye still had all its luster. The coin came back ICCS MS64 and it was gorgeous. If done properly most would never know a coin has been dipped, however, dip too long or one too many times and the luster is gone. I would agree a coin can be dipped without any points deducted, and I would purchase such a coin, but I still wouldn't remommend this practice to anyone. This is such a touchy topic I'm nervous to even to talk about it.
FYI - for anyone thinking of trying this, it will leave your circulated coins looking dull with no eye appeal. AGAIN, I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT but the only coins that would really benefit from this process would be in MS with slight surface 'dirt'
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fed-ink85-good adivce.
I voted 15 points but I agree with DBM. The actual grade isn't affected. The value is because the surfaces arent origianl
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I've seen MS 67 dipped but no 68s.
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There is dipping and there is dipping. Also, there are coins and coins.
One has to know what and how to dip. With experience, coins gain in eye appeal. I saw a coin coming out of a (PCGS) holder SP65 and coming back on a SP68. Toning hides scratches and important blemishes that will continue invisible to the less experienced or un attentive eye.
But, as with everything else, it is a personal choice or opinion. All coins will eventually tone or lose their brigh redness if something is not done to preserve or restaure them.
Eye appeal does not count in Canadian grading, so, no discount.
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