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Pillar of the Community
United States
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It almost has the look of the old California proofs (not a good thing) I doubt it is though yours looks fine. California proofs were made by buffing the fields to a high polish then treating the devices with an acid that etched the surface, it failed on the letters usually or near the hair, almost a painted on proof look. I remember seeing some that burned dealers for tens of thousnads back in the late 80's. see: http://www.pcgs.com/News/Detecting-...Coins-Part-2under whizzing. Again, I do NOT think your's is whizzed, just brought back that look to me after seeing your coin. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Valued Member
United States
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I have never seen a Morgan that reflective. I would love to see one in hand.
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United States
252 Posts |
Is this one destined to visit the done folks at PCGS?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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yes it is, it is the first coin I have sent to them I put it for the Express, they are 7 day turnaround time right now and 40 days for normal lol
So I should hopefully see it back mid next week
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United States
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Can't wait to hear what they say.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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what are you thinking its going to be bad or good? lol
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Valued Member
United States
98 Posts |
Based on a comparison to pictures in the PCGS coin grading book, it could go as high as MS67 DMPL. It clearly looks less marked that the standard MS 66.
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Valued Member
United States
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It's to nice of a coin for me to throw any guess out. My single MS Morgan turned out to be an AU. I fit better into the bottom feeder cat. I still love to dream though.
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I am cautiously optimistic.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Me too, (though it would be great to see one of us CCF members get a huge score) Without better photos and putting this coin in hand no way I'd pay DMPL or 67 or even 66 money. 1880-S are so well struck and if it makes a 67 grade then this would be a date I'd believe would. Generally well struck, PL and DMPL in fairly high numbers according to Highfill's research, but any coin this nice looking I'm a bit suspect as well, puttied cheeks, hidden coin Dr. tricks, and there are some doozies! Many got through PCGS for quite awhile, though mostly gold and old Proofs.
Fingers crossed it gets a high grade.
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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I'm calling tomorrow, PCGS is f-cked, they are calling this coin a 92, which means Harsh cleaning or polishing, there is no sign of anything except die polishing and it's in one area, around LUR in PLURIBUS. Why would I send a coin if I Knew it was polished or whizzed, this coin has all original striations. It's DMPL for a reason, the die was cleaned up! And it took 7 days, for 5 day service.
I will send it to anyone here who knows a moderator and that I can trust
If I am wrong than I will stop collecting!
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I was afraid of that, I had an inkling that it may have had a high speed polishing applied, they can be very deceptive. ie: California Prooflikes from the late 80's era of doctoring. Those slipped by graders and dealers for at least a couple years, and the less knowledgable dealers for decades. I'd love to see this coin in person. I do know a numismatist in the Rochester, NY area, near you, he is at a lot of local area shows. He is a Morgan dollar expert, and board member of the SDSC or maybe there is a CCF member near your neck of the woods, where you could meet upvat a local coin show? I was really hoping you would show us a 67 coin! "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Ok thanks Westcoin. there are flow lines towards the outside of the coin, if it was polished or whizzed these would be eliminated. the only thing I was afraid of but not really, was it not coming in DMPL.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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You should contact the seller on ebay and see what they say. Maybe they could offer a refund? Edited by Canadian-Banknotes
02/06/2013 11:16 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'd still love to see really good close ups of the surface with a macro DSLR lens. Post if you can, maybe a friend that is a photographer?
"Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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