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Opinions On My First Batch Of Uncleaned Ancients?

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 Posted 01/18/2013  5:22 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Well, thanks to you guys I have started down the path of toying with uncleaned ancients. This is my first batch and I am hoping for at least one good one.

You thoughts? (other than that penny makes them all look SO tiny!)

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Is #1 really a coin?
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 Posted 01/18/2013  5:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bing to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As I have said many times, I do not do unclean batches any longer and your first batch appears to be an answer as to why I quit doing them. Unless there is something under the crude that is not showing thru, there does not look like many of these have any redeeming quality. These are the same types of coins I generally received unless I paid extra for "premium quality" unclean lots. But even then, the coins were almost always low quality and extremely common coins that had been gone through with a fine tooth comb. I believe you are better off spending money on the coins you know you want rather than a crap shoot. Good luck. I'm hoping for you that there might be something there worth your efforts.
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 Posted 01/18/2013  6:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree,I don't see much there. They all appear to be very low grade that will not reveal very much once they are cleaned. Sorry to be so harsh, don't let this discourge you though, we all made the same mistake when starting out. I hope you didn't pay too much.
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When I first starting collecting about 10 years ago I was still able to get true uncleaned coins with dirt so thick there was no way to tell the condition of the coin underneath, alot of the uncleaned coins today have been passed around many times so the quality is less.You still can find good uncleaned coins you just have to look harder .
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For the effort.

Can I ask which country you bought them from?
It might help in figuring out what they may mostly be.

#1 looks to be either a Spanish Colonial Cob or a late Byzantine AE Trachy.

As the other members have stated, there does not seem to be any details. Maybe it is the Mexican heat, and the coins are dry. If you are sure the dirt is cleaned, then perhaps if you have some cleaning wax, apply it to them, this will reveal if there is any details.

A good seller who has been mentioned before, and sells quality uncleaned coins, is Raz of "dirtyoldcoins"
He's in the USA, so you ought to have no problem regarding shipping if you buy from him.
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5, 9 and 10 look like they may clean up to be ID'able. Even if they don't clean up very well you will at least have the enjoyment of cleaning them
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Sorry if I ignore the downer comments, but the Mexican mailing system is horrible at best so I have had to wait for a courier to bring these down from the US. It has been a little more than four months since I bought and paid for these so, one way or another this is a rare treat for me and I'm going to enjoy them! ;)

For what it's worth, I paid less than a dollar apiece and bought from a seller in AZ. Although I was recommended "dirtyoldcoins" before and I don't remember a reason for not buying from him, unfortunately he is out of stock right now.

That said, what should I do with these now? Soak in olive oil? Or are these so bad I should just skip that try another method?

Thank you for your comments! (Yes, I will confess, after waiting so long, I am more than a little disappointed, but what I can do? Right?)
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Coins #7 and # 8 seem to have a type of alkaline encrusation that has encased them.
Certainly with # 8 you can see the edges of the coin.

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Is alkaline encrusation a good thing?
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That said, what should I do with these now? Soak in olive oil? Or are these so bad I should just skip that try another method?

I usually start of with distilled water for a week, cleaning and replacing the water each day. Then if you don't see any progress soak them in olive oil.
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Is alkaline encrusation a good thing?-harrison2

It is not going to turn the coin into dust, as Bronze Disease will, but it means that the surface is caked in this "stuff" and it is hard, and hard to clean off.
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Too bad, I was hoping that meant it protected the surface.

I'll pop them in some distilled water and see how it goes. When you say cleaning...you mean trading out the water and cleaning the container, not cleaning the coins, right?

Or maybe you do mean cleaning the coins...Taking a toothbrush to them?
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Replace the water and give the coins a clean with a toothbrush
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Okay, thanks for clarifying...with moderns, that is a big no-no. :D
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get a toothpick also harrion, like the dirt on number 8 there and similar coins should kind of chip off. if you're going to practice cleaning on this lot, my want to try some needle also.

have fun cleaning!
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 Posted 01/20/2013  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks chrsmat71!

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