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1794 $1 Sells For $10 Million At Stacks!

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 Posted 01/28/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Canadian-Banknotes to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just got this email from Rare Coin Wholesalers.

http://www.rarecoinwholesalers.com/...world-record

Amazing to think, that in 1947 someone was able to buy this coin for $1,250 (Roughly $12,400 today with inflation).
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 Posted 01/28/2013  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jakedacc to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
makes you wonder when we will see this coin again, chances are if you have 10 million to spend, you're probably in yout fourties or older, when the buyer passes, the coin will get passed on or sold, maybe we'll see it in 5 years sell for less, or maybe even more!
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 Posted 01/29/2013  3:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It may not be too long. This is the fourth time it has sold in the past 22 years. Fifth time in 27 years, sixth time in 29 years.
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According to the article:


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Legend Numismatics, a rare-coin firm based in New Jersey, bought the coin. The firm was prepared to bid higher than $10 million and has no plans to sell the coin in the near future, the company said in a statement.


Is this a conglomerate of collectors? Why would a coin shop buy a coin never to sell it?

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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm almost positive that Legend purchased this coin on behalf of a client rather than for their own personal collection despite other news to the contrary. I happened to attend the auction and overheard Laura saying afterwards something to that effect. I also got the privilege to hold and examine the coin up close in person.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I've no doubt that a certain gentleman who has been described as a "minority partner" with Legend is the driving force behind this transaction. Tradedollarnut is turning his attention to something new.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coins4fun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That amount is just mindblowing. More money than most hard working people will ever dream about, all invested in one coin. Even the buyers premium Harvey Stack could use to retire on (not that he needs it.) Dave, what do you think was it the first silver dollar struck, or just an incredible example?
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Dave, what do you think was it the first silver dollar struck, or just an incredible example?


The preponderance of evidence, and the personal opinions of numismatists whose reference books I'm not fit to carry, indicate this is the first Business Strike Dollar (albeit struck to more-than-circulation standards) ever minted. It's the earliest-known die state of the sole die pair, and of a strike even better than the Judd-19 copper trial pattern thought to be a test of the dies. It is "fully struck" by any definition of the term, and fully Prooflike.

Yeah, for my money this is the first Silver Dollar ever struck by the United States.
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Thanks, Nathan. Ashame that the topic which I just posted was removed, since I posted it in good faith and related it to numismatics but it is what it is and in the end the moderators decide what is appropriate for their site. I've seen this kind of censorship and government control happening in our country today. Many liberals probably believe that the man who bought this 1794 dollar should have spread his wealth instead of indulging in this wonderful coin with money that he earned.
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 Posted 01/29/2013  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matchbox to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I'm almost positive that Legend purchased this coin on behalf of a client rather than for their own personal collection despite other news to the contrary. I happened to attend the auction and overheard Laura saying afterwards something to that effect. I also got the privilege to hold and examine the coin up close in person.


When I read the article that's what I was thinking.

If this is the case it proves that some people just have too much money. If one individual can spend ten million dollars on a single coin then there's something seriously wrong.


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 Posted 01/29/2013  7:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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Not sure how big it would be, I really didn't do the math.


I probably won't be doing anything so ridiculous, but I love math, so there. (Note that all of the below is just an approximation.)

$10,000,000/$30=300,000 ASEs
300,000 ASEs=300,000 ounces=10,000 kg=10 tons=1 cubic meter
an ASE is just under 5cm wide, so that's a good approximation of lowest wall thickness - which means we get (approximately) 20 square meters of walls to work with; which means that, if the house is approximately cubic, it'll be about 6 feet on each side (and would probably have to be held up by something more sturdy than a bunch of ASEs or it would just fall to pieces).
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Why would a coin shop buy a coin never to sell it?


They must see this coin as a good numismatic investment to buy and hold for a while. The very top of the high-end numismatic market seems to be recession proof and I believe that I read somewhere that this coin has appreciated in value at an annual rate of 13% of the past half century.

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I posted it in good faith and related it to numismatics but it is what it is and in the end the moderators decide what is appropriate for their site. I've seen this kind of censorship and government control happening in our country today.


Consider the opposite side of that coin. Your intent isn't in question, but if we allow you, who, then, can we deny? I'll answer that for you: everyone with any similar intent must be allowed to do the same thing if we are to remain true to ourselves and our purposes. It is not in the impartial enforcement of rules where one finds fault (understanding this is not a democracy), but in the subjective application of privilege to some and not others.


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If one individual can spend ten million dollars on a single coin then there's something seriously wrong.


I must disagree. Denying someone the fruits of their long labor and success isn't who we are, and I'd far rather see that success go towards helping preserve some of our most important history as a nation. It doesn't hurt that the person in question here is just as much a lover of coins as anyone here, and not just an investor.
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