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What Happens To Gold And Silver Next? Look Out Below?

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 Posted 01/04/2016  6:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As a Canadian buying any pm coin is a dismal proposition. I see so many deals, but alas its all in USD. Few Canadian ebay seller list in CAD. So until our dollar revives some, I am in a holding pattern. Food is getting hit hard with the exchange rate. I knew I should of bought USD when at par, it was too good to last. Its hard resisting some of the new bullion coins!

@Yup is disappointing to hear a further drop in our dollar is in the cards! I remember back in 1999 when travelling state side paying $1.66 for $1 USD, I hope it doesn't get this bad again. I can handle 15% but this is crazy. I had lots of practice in 80s 90s, so will be patient.
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01/04/2016 6:07 pm
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 Posted 01/04/2016  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@domain555

oh god I been watching Plat and Pall myself and they are also looking like death. I tried a trade in Palladium in October when it was making a break over the trend line in price but I was stopped out for a loss.. not too shortly after I was stopped out it started falling off a cliff. If I can say anything, I am so glad I ALWAYS respect my stops and take that loss rather than STAYING wrong and blowing up my account, ugh!

@pocket change 50

I am sorry to hear about your pain and my other fellow canadian collecting friends, that just sucks. Yea, the canadian dollar has been stuck in a downtrend for about 3 years now and it doesn't show any signs of trying to move up. I would say if the 70s break, 60s are the next place the CAD goes. Dont feel bad tho, the Aussie dollar was looking good last week until todays damage happened. The Aussie dollar had some major technical price damage happen today.

I dont know whats going to happen but I have to say things do not look good at all. We have problems with junk bonds, even high grade corporate bonds in the US look like crap, the transports look ugly (truckers, railroads) almost all world stock markets are in the toliet..... so who knows whats up... and yet you balance that with other positives I really again, have no idea what is going on or going to happen.
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 Posted 01/06/2016  03:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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... looked at PLATINUM (or) PALADIUM


Unless someone can produce some overwhelmingly influential evidence to the contrary I do not see any compelling reason for these items to behave drastically different compared to gold.

PMs in general during this existing economic environment are in a similar quandary.

IMO
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 Posted 01/06/2016  11:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Domain555 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply


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PMs in general during this existing economic environment are in a similar quandary





This bear is only holding Morgans & Peace dollars.

I did buy (1) 40% IKE last week, however.
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 Posted 01/06/2016  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Cascade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Looks like 2016 can see a big spike in pm's as gold could be the go to.
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 Posted 01/06/2016  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
2016 is starting out pretty interesting.

Not sure we can really make out anything in regards to silver and gold. As we have discussed before, everything is a process and takes time.

Could it be a start? Sure, thats how moves of importance start, but again, it is a process. Little by little we get the pieces of the puzzle. Nevertheless, it is much to early to tell if things change for the PMs this year.

One final note is that in some circles, going forward, there is a seasonality bias in the favor of gold into part of February going forward. In this case, we still refer to price action over seasonality patterns while keeping an open mind.

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 Posted 01/07/2016  12:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think by mid-February will see a decline in PM also. But I also think is hard to see sub $1,000 gold, that just my opinion.
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oh btw, @macmercury , I wanted to mentioned something the other day, I usually dont talk about these things as they dont really fit in the goals of this thread BUT the japanese yen, yes has been really been on a tear here and is also considered a safe haven currency, tho not as supreme as the USD.

However, the main point is that yes, the Yen looks like,if this price action continues, could be breaking out much higher in the near future and might be another currency up there with the USD.

One final note is that usually, if you are looking for "good" times, you dont want to see a higher yen. Whether that happens, time will tell, but it has been on a tear recently and coming into some important areas in terms of price.
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 Posted 01/07/2016  03:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I got my vacation done, and it seem as though there was a hole in my pants that would come out faster than I can fill it with. LOL! Japan is one on my agenda, really wanted to visit Japan for a long time.
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 Posted 01/07/2016  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thq to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Where will precious metals go? Up or down? A few thoughts.

If gold acted like a normal commodity it would already be going down big time. IMO normal commodities are damaged by government debt expansion. They have to go below cost to keep the lights on in the countries that produce them, and the US/Euro Zone/Great Britain/China can outprint oil wells in Saudi Arabia and copper mines in Indonesia and Peru.

But precious metals act differently. They are not consumed and don't need replacement. They are not a significant source of very many national revenues via mining. They are insignificant in value compared to sovereign debt, so the big debtor countries that are large holders can't gain much by large-scale liquidations.

So IMO precious metals continue as value placeholders. And you can hold them in your hand, unlike investments composed of debt instruments. If the underlying government hyperinflates (Venezuela eg) or the business collapses, the debt instruments are worthless pieces of paper. I have stock certificates from General Motors and Kodak that fall into that category. All they are now are pretty memories. A gold coin is prettier.

"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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...gold could be the go to


I realize that gold's been up recently w/ these precipitous market declines lately.

But I'd like to hear opinions on gold's projection six months out or so(pre-election) keeping in mind that China's economic downturn seems to be affecting the states as well as Europe with rumblings of a global commercial slowdown.

Using this scenario as one possibility with the stock market finally settling down and remaining w/ a 10% decline, for example, would not gold eventually peter out or just gradually decline since the prospects of inflation seemingly do not appear to be anywhere in the cards?
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 Posted 01/08/2016  4:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@mdpmedia

I have no opinions, as they are always wrong and I dont make money on them. I will however say that before gold and silver look better, they need break some key trend lines and price and we arent near any of them yet.

I will also repeat that with the declines in the market, which I TOTALLY welcome as 2015 was a crappy sideways market and I am ready to take advantage of the downtrend starting in 2016 and sell world markets/stocks short, I want to remind everyone that gold and silver are not safe havens.

Their performance this week was still pretty lame. If they are to change, they need more time and should show if 2016 is going to be different. we are far from that.

hope to have some new charts up, havent done those in a while
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 Posted 01/11/2016  03:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kg5 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The low highs must be showing up on the charts by now.

AU$ is under US70c.

With what going on around the world it could be a lot worst for OZ.

But the fat lady has yet to sing!
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Check out this 1.5 HOUR PLATINUM chart

I would not be surprised at a 7 handle



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 Posted 01/15/2016  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yup7676 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Just a friendly reminder-

silver and gold remain in downtrends and are not considered areas of safe havens. That belongs to the USD, the yen and US Bonds at the moment.

Considering how world markets, including the US stock market are now entering downtrends, you would think gold and silver would move higher. But as you can see, as evidenced by price, they are not.

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