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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
Grind, grind, grind, grind...
this is what a steady uptrend looks like. Miners pull in, consolidate, run up.. rinse and repeat. Silver, grind grind grind. In case you havent noticed, the buyers are in control of silver. Even after a big run last week, the pull back has been light, gains consolidated in time thus far. If you were buying silver in the 16s as you should have been, you cant complain at all.
Still no yearly highs hit for silver but its holding its gains thus far and thats a good thing, considering how volatile silver can be.
Gold, same thing. Grind, grind, grind. Lots of chop, pull back, then grind grind grind. Text book consolidation via time. The pull backs havent been that sharp in price.
The more gold and silver attempt to move higher and consolidate like this, should the next move be higher, its going to be a very explosive one higher. Think of it as a rubber band thats been stretched and hasnt been released yet.
For now, your job, my job, everyone's job that is holding gold and silver, miners and you just started buying as the uptrend in gold and the miners was confirmed this year and silver with the break of the trendline /range, is to SIT on your thumbs and ride the trend. Your job is not to worry about where to exit for now. Your job is to let this run and see if you can spot real continued weakness. See if you can spot a change in character in the buying. If you worry about where to exit right now, you are going to be full of remorse and regrets about why you didnt hold on.
The numbers to watch remain the same from the previous post, continue to watch those numbers.
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Valued Member
United States
51 Posts |
Thanks YUP..I recently spent a boatload of $$$ getting all my raw gold, larger silver(Kilogram Mexican Libertads), and platinum palladium coins certified secure at PCGS, so, when selling time comes, NO monkey business with forgery swappers. I figured the $1,500 investment is just good insurance well spent, as I sell a lot on ebay. If you read CoinWorld magazine, this year, a lot of new fake gold coins and bars have hit the market and coin shows. Most of these are good enough to fool many of even the most seasoned pro's, as the weight's are near perfect, and, the dies and computers used are top notch now. Fake 1 Oz USA gold eagles and 1 Oz pamp suisse gold bars, sealed. The differences are minute. Buy carefully folks. I do NOT buy any more bars.
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Valued Member
United States
154 Posts |
@yup I have a question for you. You have said follow the money. I'm trying to learn how to do that, so have been reading up and playing around with charts, etc. so that after I've finished with the miners run up, then flip into physical silver holders as you've recommended, I'll be ready to invest once silver has topped out with my profits and capital. From what I've noticed, besides silver and gold, is the money in Utilities right now? Looks to me that way. I've just noticed a lot of movement in them as I've been looking around. Many thanks to you.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
Chicken Little here. I sold 20% of mutual fund today. And THEN, I read the posts for today. Ha Ha.
Well, I'm still happy with a 30% return. In fact, I've never made a 30% return on anything in my life that I can remember.
If it dips, I might jump it back in. If not, I'm still happy.
On a similar topic, regarding physical silver, I'm bummed if prices go up cause it's more expensive to buy more and I'm bummed if prices go down because I should have waited. I'm in a lose, lose situation :)
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
The psychology of this is interesting. I was happy buying from $19 to $13.80.
However, buying something now is like pulling teeth because it raises my dollar cost average. Anyone else have this problem? My hobby has been ruined!
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Valued Member
United States
51 Posts |
When Silver goes over $55?..$65?.how will you feel? History PROVES a RECORD high each major event(1960's, 1970's, 1980's, 2011)..this time should be no different....REALISTICALLY, closer to $65-$85 could be a reality soon. Like YUP says...a rubber band ready to snap. 2 "legs" on each big run up..1st leg longggggggggggg and slow....2nd leg fast & furious(parabolic, as everybody rushes in). Consider ourselves lucky if positioned NOW with holdings, waiting for a final top in xxxxxxxx months, years, whatever. My point is, there is still plenty of time to buy. Once over $20, I would guess game over, and, that will be a new floor to protect..until a new one.....25....30....35...40... The people at TDAmeritrade told me the investors that do the best, gains-wise, are the ones who buy and "forget"...I've learned my lesson on IN-OUT-IN-OUT..cost me thousands in losses and lost profits...I'm IN and Holding. Mentally, if you cannot deal with seeing red on your trading acct, then just stick to physical. I have NO emotional connection to my physical..it is just "there", up, down, whatever. YES..I DO get wound up with my mining stocks, but, have learned to deal with corrections..it's normal, and healthy, and, leads to newer highs down the line. Chill, and enjoy this ride...it could turn out to be "The Big One"...
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
Mycoguy,
Great post. Part of it is related to how much I had moved over to the miners. Way, way to much. As such, I am moving out to be a bit more balanced.
The other part is psychological. While I make OK money at my day job, I do some consulting on the side that doesn't really pay that well. As such, 30% profit amounts to a lot of these projects. I figure, sell and skip these projects for the next few years :)
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
@MontanaCMR
Well, it would been better that you had held on. You wont make big profits, no one does, until one learns to control emotions and go with the flow. That is a lesson that is hard to learn, I know I had to learn to go with it, all successful traders do. Once you can let go of that emotion, you will really see the big money.
To be honest, I can bag, with the power of the trend, depending on the asset, and market conditions, it is possible to do 30-40% plus and more in just a DAY or days. sometimes over months it can 60-80% or more. So 30% is just scrapping the surface.
some days its just 6%, 12% but when you have a powerful trend, up or down, one can make returns on ones money that is mind boggling for most. To me, 30% is nice but thats just the start.
A famous trader that I follow from the late 1800s said that theres nothing wrong in taking profits. But its worse to basically take those profits early without letting the move run its full course.
Clearly you have an emotional blockade, where you are worrying that at any minute you think the hammer comes down. Dont worry, thats a common human trait. You did what made you feel better emotionally so I cant fault you but what will end up happening is these are going to run higher and you will/might feel bad. Its natural, its human.
I say be careful on your next entry. It must be proper. Remember, even tho we are in an uptrend, we do not know when the uptrend has a violent move. All up trends correct. so do down trends. These usually happen when people get comfortable, when they feel that they can just buy that dip, when they feel that its going to keep going up. Dont succumb to that, dont get comfortable and dont take the uptrend for granted.
That is why we leg into them on the way up and buy from a higher spot until we hit our final goal. That way, we can sit on our final amount of shares, have a profit already, have been proven right because its going up and WHEN that pull back happens, we do not panic, we dont have emotional problems worrying that we bought too much or that we are going to lose profits because we bought early and proper and can now stomach or handle any pull back.
So this is a warning to be wise in how you enter/add. Do not take the uptrend for granted. Dont assume you can buy a dip each and every single time. Remember how and where we stand in this uptrend.
The farther we get away from the initial buy point, and without until substantial pull backs or a very nice long base of consolidation in time, the trickier it becomes for a proper entry point.
That is WHY we do not start selling early and closing out positions in an uptrend.
You did what you thought was best and I cant fault you, especially since this is not something you do for a living. I am happy for you tho, feels good to see the general public take gains home and win at this game.
You are proof to everyone who whines and complains about manipulation, that markets are a casino, those who say you cant win at markets, you proved every single naysayer in the world WRONG with your gains and thats a great thing!
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
@zack
The simple answer to find what sectors are leading is to every single day compile a list of what stocks are at 52 highs. These are the stocks being accumulated by funds, institutions.
Yes Utes have been leading but the market is currently undergoing a phase where there is sector rotation. Some months it is the REITS leading. Sometimes it is the Utes, (utilities) other times a few other individual names will lead.
As of this rotation, Utes are not at 52 highs, tho some specific Ute sectors are, like water Utes.
To properly enter a sector, you must follow and compile everyday what stocks/sectors are making 52 highs. You could enter any stock at the 52 high list but the main issue is if that is the proper entry? Is it at the start? OR has the stock been moving already for months at 52 highs? If it has been running for months and you enter now, chances are high you end up buying as the rotation begins to another sector.
so before you go buying my advice is to start studying the sectors that are being bought up. However there is a catch to that. Just because a stock is at a 52 high, does not mean you go and buy it. You must also pay attention to market conditions. Sometimes it is better just to sit out, put the stock at your watch list and re-enter later.
You do NOT have to put all your cash into the market all the time. Only the funds and institutions do that. You do not need to do that. I dont and nor do the vast majority of traders.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
Amazing insight. My favorite part is telling colleagues about listening to an anonymous social media guy named Yup.  One small part of my defense, I had a lot, both in terms of percentage, and amount (at least for me) moved over. Even if I leave the rest, it's still a lot for me. Next time, I'll read what this thread says before considering a change in position. Lol, I had better not quit my day job yet.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7390 Posts |
Wow. Silver's at 17.84 currently in afterhours. That's over the 52 week high right yup 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
717 Posts |
I was watching that as well Cascade...guess we need to see what happens tomorrow. I have a feeling it may dip down, but I also have a feeling that we are going to hit $18 in the very near future.
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Valued Member
United States
51 Posts |
Here's a cool thread: I like the "Paper" contract point. Gold has added another $8 and silver is up $0.29 in early Asian trading. It will be interesting to see how the markets progress at the end of Asian trading as well as how gold and silver perform when the Western markets open tomorrow.
Investors need to realize that even though the Commercials are heavily short gold and silver, the situation in the financial system is very unstable. While many precious metals analysts believe that gold and silver are going to be whacked lower due to the huge short leverage by the Commercial Banks on the metals, at some point they will lose the ability to control the paper price.
It's impossible to know when this will occur, but it's much wiser to have a position in the precious metals EARLY than LATE.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
606 Posts |
I think $17.68 is the 52 week high. It looks smashed tonight.
Does that usually indicate higher prices, or pull back?
Or start a downtrend :/
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Valued Member
United States
154 Posts |
@yup So if buying in at 52 week highs, are you talking about going short? Or that once it has hit the 52 week high that signals a breakout and it will go higher? I cannot go short, as I would not have to meet margin calls. I figure I've got time to learn as this wave in miners and PM is just beginning.
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