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Pillar of the Community
United States
1431 Posts |
And silver plummets 2% in minutes for no reason at all.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
And there is the reversal. Talk about a failed break out LOL.. and for, I forget, how many now LOL
This is why last night I was skeptical about the break out happening under the knee jerk movement. It would be much better if we creeped into it, with no fanfare.
Anyways, be patient. Next week gives more clues. For now we have a failed break out. Again, gold and silver need follow through and IF they really can do it, then next week should show us more.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
849 Posts |
Quote: And silver plummets 2% in minutes for no reason at all. Is not the reason that more people want to sell it than buy it at the moment? I thought that was always the reason prices went up and down in every commodity and stock.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
I know just about everyone here is probably like "why did that happen" or "its all rigged". My friends, this sort of price action happens ALL the time in markets, be it stocks, bonds, commodities or currencies.
While I realize everyone is searching for a specific "why" the truth of the matter is the sellers stepped in and sold today. Simple as that. Those sellers originate from the 4 plus year downtrend that gold and silver have come out of.
Seeing that gold and silver have reverted from that 4 year downtrend to making yearly highs last year, price must now "eat" through those various levels, on the way up. Within these levels, sellers are going to appear and sell. An other way of looking at this is "over head supply". Not physical but again, expressed in price. Price, as I always say, has memory.
There are going to be areas that are resistance and it will take a lot of buying to get past them. It will take repeated attempts. As I said, earlier, sellers are going to step in. I think today was a good example of that, sellers stepped in and sold the break out, making a good profit. So the question that remains is- was that it?
I havent been keeping track of the amount of specific break out attempts at these time frames but memory serves me right and looking at previous posts here, we have had multiple attempts to push higher.
Thats a good thing. The more an area is probed, up or down, in price, the more an area is pricked, it will give way. If you have been paying attention, we got to this point today through a series of repeated ranges being formed and broken higher, which have been happening for quite a few weeks now.
Now gold and silver got to a bigger level on a longer time frame and up until today, price action has been constructive. Today tho, it just fizzled out and the close today made for a very lame and pathetic break out attempt. Silver and gold got both smacked right down into their ranges. Silver looks even more pathetic than gold, it didnt even touch 18.54 before it got wailed on.
Now, while today was ugly in terms of price action, we cannot rush out and say "thats all she wrote". We will have to wait until next week for more clues as we might be presented with several scenarios-
1- silver and gold attempt next week to break out again
2- silver and gold simple stay range bound for several more weeks
3- silver and gold start to move lower and break this range lower and start re-tracing their moves from the previous weeks.
What will happen we dont know and its really not worth rushing out to predict what happens. I suspect you will have a ton of people rushing out, pumping their chest saying "see gold and silver are going right back to 10 bucks" or "the game is rigged, we got snuffed by banks". The problem with this sort of useless dribble is it detracts from observing price and being patient, allowing the element of time to work things out.
I know its probably hard for those on here who really love their silver and gold and just are waiting on higher prices. Days like this must take the wind out of your sails. The thing is tho, its important to just take days like this in stride. I would run out of time if I were to start list out all the countless break outs and break downs that are either false or never ever work. Sometimes these break outs and break downs fizzle out and then lo and behold, months later its the same pattern and they do work or they again fizzle out.
So just be patient, let time work things out. Even after today, gold is up YTD 8% and silver YTD 12%, Palladium at 17% (what is it with you people here not buying more Palladium) which I might add, the PMs for now are still beating the SPX (S&P) and the old fart index which is the DJ30 (Dow Jones Industrial). Only the COMPQ (Nasdaq) is close to the PMs at 11%.
I wish I could tell you more but there really isn't much else to say and I am not in the prediction biz. Its best to go with the flow, pay attention to price, it paints a much better picture than my opinion.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
Apologies for the lack of charts my friends, just been busy and havent been able to whip them up but here I few charts for you to illustrate where we stand. Silver For starters, never broke 18.54. Strike one for silver on this latest attempt to break out. Strike two is the ugly reversal and it was closed, remember, we always say "it matters how it gets closed". In this case, the Futures market closed them down, despite all the news driven events. Strike Three as that implies a lot of weakness. So a lot of negatives in terms of price in this recent break out attempt which is an important one since its a on longer term time frame, or multi-month as it could also be called. As I mentioned last week, I know a lot folks are searching for the "why". As a trader who only goes by price, the answer is easy: a ton of overhead supply or Resistance. There are levels, from the previous 4 year downtrend, where buyers and sellers will show up. This sort of tug of war can continue for a long time. I remember even recently seeing a lot of Nasdaq tech stocks that fell hard in 2000, those that are still around, after 16 years, are at all time highs. However, to get these new yearly highs, they also went through periods of time where they would inch higher and then fall down again and start forming new ranges/bases before breaking higher and then again being smacked down. This is exactly what is happening here and while it is a very tedious cycle, it is a necessary one for higher prices to prevail. For me, following price and patterns, thats what happening here and I would not be surprised we continue to see this sort of price action from here. Back to the topic at hand, silver. So as it stands, silver is again range bound. This coming week will bring more clues, whether silver remains range bound or rolls over hard from here. Watch and see if the Friday low is taken out which was 17.86, should that give way, lower prices are coming. Gold Same price action here as silver, except that gold did break out on a longer time frame. It is reverse at the end of the session as silver did and now it sits on the lower end of the range. The key number going forward now is if gold can break 1273.30 or this is the start of weakness. Reversals as we saw are not great if you want to see higher prices but they do NOT mean its game over in a sense. Its often common to see to see a reversal like this happen and then the asset just goes into a range for more time and then again attempts for that previous high that was made. Other times a reversal does signal that the asset is going lower. I want to admonish all of you to tune out the noise and just follow the price action. You probably are hearing a lot of articles or pieces saying that gold and silver are toast because of this price action. Maybe so, BUT to say that NOW is not wise. To try and predict what the market is going to do next is not wise so get caught up with what those are saying and rather focus on PRICE! I have seen this pattern MANY TIMES before and the only thing that resolves what happens next is time. So let the element of time to let things play out, be patient. In fact, in markets, time, along with the trend is your BEST FRIEND.
If you have any questions or I might have not explained something where you cant understand drop me a line here.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
quite the price action this AM, nice tussle going on. You can see why its best to just let things play out, see where they settle before making a call.
we have been all over the board this AM.... breaking the range lower, going flat, gaining on the day, etc...
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
I rest my case- perfect example why one doesn't go and rush out with wild predictions, allow time to do its thing.
refer the my post over the weekend for the key numbers to be watching for gold and silver.
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
now this is a very nice close and excellent way to break higher, especially liking gold here, (can you see why I been saying for a long time now, buy more gold than silver?)
Silver had a nice move but it would be nice to see it break that 18.54
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Pillar of the Community
United States
5838 Posts |
$1,300 here we come! 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
so just adding some narrative for you people, so you can learn to spot these things in other assets and become better investors in the future...
on an asset attempting to break higher-
1st attempt- fails, reverses,ends at LOD (low of day)
2- next market day, asset drops again, even goes below previous LOD. manages to stay in range however, at the lower end
3- on the 3rd day, asset runs higher and manages to break higher over the previous break out point.
You can see the clear progression of price holding, note the strength, and then charging again into the break out area, this time breaking the previous high and closing out near the HOD.
this sort of price action is exhibiting strength from buyers, in gold. Instead of rolling over this week, gold managed to bounce back again, hit the original break out area and then push higher. This should bring a little bit more push higher and then "ideally" gold should go back into building bases, just chopping around, doing nothing, preserve its gains and then push again higher out of its range.
but the point is, when you are buying assets in markets, whether they be stocks, commodities, currencies, you want to be patient and pay attention to price, its behavior, to paint the picture of whether its a fluke or for real. This same pattern works in reverse when an asset is in a downtrend and weak, and you can use it to either sell short or simply avoid a weak asset.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3343 Posts |
Good time to sell if you need the money.
When I was selling dad's estate there was no market timing. Liquidate and bank it.
That's the problem with buy-and-hold. There's no chance to monetize your assets and enjoy them. Or pay a bill. Steack frites in Paris tastes better than American Eagles.
"Two minutes ago I would have sold my chances for a tired dime." Fred Astaire
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
7096 Posts |
Quote: Good time to sell if you need the money. Hmmm I think there is more money on the table to come yet 
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
Nice follow through today to yesterdays break out. Notice the strength, enjoy the break out. A pretty nice text book break out on a second attempt.
I am happy for you gold bugs out there, I dont know if the silver bugs here can whoop it up tho, not really great price action yet, thankfully I have my cuban women to gaze my eyes for beauty instead of the price action in silver LOL
Nevertheless, it is possible that gold drags silver up with it, we have seen this relationship swap back and forth many times.
all in all, nice price action for those wanting higher prices, trumping the first reversal, good attempt at a second try and having a follow through today.
My other thought is this- this market has for years been running on cycles, or a rotation basis. In fact, the markets do this often but I bring it up because we went from stocks being great and dumping gold in November of last year.
Since about the start of March of this year, the market has started to run out of steam. Internals have shown less market leadership, as an example, many financial sectors are now negative on the year, after having a very strong move. Now, on a yearly basis, finnies (financials) are in uptrends but cracks are showing up in terms of weakness on shorter time frames. YTD as an example, various financial sectors are now negative.
As an example, I know you guys love to gang up on Goldman Sachs. The stock is negative YTD, giving up gains from the start of the year. Regional banks turned negative for the year at the end of March. Other strong sectors have also run out of steam for now.
I am not saying that this is IT for stocks. Rather, I am saying that it appears gold could be benefiting from a period of strength as the market lets the dust settle for now in equity markets due to uncertainties and parks money in gold. Also notice that the Japanese Yen broke out yesterday, the Yen being a safe haven currency. This is another example of money moving into a safe haven. Even the US Long Bond, while they are in a downtrend, are attempting to break out higher on a shorter term time frame, yet again another example of money going into a safe haven.
My point, then I guess is: enjoy this rotation for now, for however it lasts, if its a few months, weeks, whatever, enjoy it and dont get ahead of yourself thinking this is the move that is taking gold and silver to the moon. Just enjoy it and let things play out. Maybe it lends itself to a bigger move either in a shorter time frame or maybe this helps strengthen the long term base in gold, which one, who is to know? Just be patient, enjoy it and let it play out with the element of time.
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Valued Member
Canada
217 Posts |
Gold is at 70x price of silver. Doesn't that indicate a buy for silver?
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
3789 Posts |
today we have silver hitting past that 18.54, tho it came into it all late, might hold on this attempt, we'll see
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