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2012 Special Wrapped Roll #20,000/20,000

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 Posted 02/25/2013  08:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lostwords to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I heard that shiiping to/from Canada has gone up, but;

"Winner will pay $29.99 for shipping within USA, and $19.99 for CANADA. For other countries please contact me for shipping."


Probably have to cover for insurance but in anycase,if someone willing to pay over $500 for a roll of penny, don't think they care about shipping rate
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 Posted 02/25/2013  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CC-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With easy money like this, there are probably a half dozen shops in China already working on making '20,000 of 20,000' stickers.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  08:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Lostwords to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I wonder if 1/20000 will garner the same interest
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 Posted 02/25/2013  08:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dooby Rak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The other problem is he can't prove he actually shipped that roll. All someone has to do is claim the item was not as described and send back a regular roll. The buyer gets a refund and bye bye roll 20000/20000.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silveroid to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yeah...easy money, congratulations to that guy.

But what will be, if will be discovered that due to RCM misstake, the last COA# is 30.000 and not 20.000 - like it was for "2011 Year of the Rabbit" coin.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You can have connections, but I know some just bought a lot of them in online stores and ebay at over issue price. Few days after the release you could buy a lot of them at 20$/roll or more.

Having a lot of rolls doesn't mean he paid issue price for all of them. Remember that a lot of people were saying that we were fools to buy this roll at 10$ from the Mint (and I'm not talking about this 20,000 roll, just regulars). First sale on ebay for 20$ was for many the top it would go... now when someone said he bought a big lot at 30$/roll he was also a fool! Now that rolls seem to top 50$ on ebay... they are not fool anymore, they are scammers! Think about it.

Anyway I don't want to bring once again the debate over flippers vs. collectors, but these guys take big risk in buying rolls at 30$ each. This time it paid, but some time they are screwed and have to take the loss on tens of coins that nobody wants anymore.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TIPIT to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@Dooby Rak
This is where a video camera of the shipping is a must.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jsinger21 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Only time will tell what this roll of pennies will fetch.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dooby Rak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Video can still be can be faked. Anything can happen between the video being made and the shipper receiving it. Need to have a notary witness the package being closed and shipped. Then send a letter from the notary to prove what was witnessed. Only costs you $50 extra.

My biggest fear buying this is will these rolls hold their value? Its just a penny.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add encana to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I just came back from the money museum in ottawa this weekend and saw the last penny on display pressed by Flaherty himself on May 4th 2012..
sooooooooo technically the 20 000 / 20 000 contains not the actual last penny ever minted but the before last...
Just a thought
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 Posted 02/25/2013  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW ... WTH is that price ?
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sooooooooo technically the 20 000 / 20 000 contains not the actual last penny ever minted but the before last...


Whoever buys it should crack it open and count them to see if there is actually only 49....
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 Posted 02/25/2013  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dooby Rak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Technically who ever buy these roll is not guaranteed one of the last million coins. It is impossible to make exactly one million and then count one million pennies. So what do you do? You make 1,050,000 approximately. Then you weigh them and add a little extra. After weighing they will have just over 1 million pennies. They will only use 1 million of those but somewhere there are 5,000 to 50,000 pennies that will never be circulated, unless they issued more than one roll marked 20,000/20,000.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SoulBrotherNo3 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The penny roll listing also says "the last million pennies ever distributed" not the last pennies ever made.
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 Posted 02/25/2013  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dooby Rak to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You don't think a few years from now the mint isn't going to say "Hey we found some extra last pennies we forgot about by storing them in a safe place and locking them away until everybody forgot about the last one million we issued some years back." Then they will make a special release of these pennies. You think people would not buy those very last pennies at a very high premium.
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