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Here's a choice 1858 but I will have to work on better pics.

So hard to get it perfect through the plastic and then some of them have been lacquered also.

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 Posted 02/25/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bill in Burl to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Very nice! Can we see the Reverse?
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Sadly Bill, I don't have the Reverse in the computer yet. These files have been sitting in here for years.... and rarely come out to play.

I was surprised not to find it in any file. Sadly that might be the case with more that I planned to add here. Will work on this problem and also better quality pics too.

If the flip printing is clear, then the coin is slightly out of focus and vise versus.
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Very pretty coin DEVLEC
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Thanks...

What would this nice R & B MS63 trends for now..?
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Current Trends for an MS-63 Red is $2,275.

Here is an MS-63 RB that sold on ebay a little while ago.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-1-Ce...t_723wt_1065

You have some very nice coins in your collection, I would love to see more pictures.
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Thanks so much for the link to that ~$1600 R & B MS 63.

It seems to be a lot more Brown when compared to mine or maybe it's just the lighting.

I will have to get mine and see how much Red is actually on the Reverse,... and then start taking better pics for here.
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It seems to be a lot more Brown when compared to mine or maybe it's just the lighting.

Yours is a much nicer coin.
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Great condition for such an old coin.
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Here is the Reverse ...and it's darker than the added Obverse.

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wow what a great coin and Graded too!
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In my book I catalogued this one as OC2/RC9. It has five stems re-engraved on the reverse and a very visible re-punched G on the obverse. About 3% of all 1858 cents come from this die marriage. Nice coin.
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Out of curiosity, this is an open question to all: What is the prevailing opinion on "lacquered"?

I know it was a common practice 75+ years ago to preserve the red state of coppers by a dip in lacquer. But, how detrimental to value do you think it is?
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That's an interesting subject dialog. Worthy of its own post! And a very nice coin devlac.
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Yes, I also wish to know more about lacquered coins and how it could affect pricing. I came across a few and I didn't touch them because I consider that undesirable. Is it ok with Canadian coins?
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PCGS usually will not grade a lacquered coin. They consider it damaged and will return it as "Genuine".

In my opinion, the effect on value depends upon the coin. On a very rare, or condition rare, coin, it may not effect the value at all. For example, there is an ICCS graded 1858 cent in ICCS MS-65 full red that is lacquered. As I recall, it last sold for about $7,000 because it may be the nicest surviving 1858 cent. Conversely, there are quite a few MS-63 RB 1858 cents out there without lacquer, so I think it does adversely affect the value of this coin. Hard to say how much though.
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