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1882-S Morgan

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What ya'll think? Definitely proof-like IMO, just curious if it's worthy of deep proof. I personally don't think so, as I don't think I could shave with it, but it's really close. The holder makes it tough to show. This is at a angle, so you won't see the "camera" per say. I can try some more later.



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 Posted 04/26/2007  6:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hard to tell by the photo, but if that coin's surface looks that good in person wow I can barely see any chatter on the face
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 Posted 04/26/2007  7:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
MS65PL? That's a fruit coin if I've ever seen one.

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I will wait to see if anyone else wants to venture a guess prior to revealing the grade. I will tell you that it is definitely PL. My coin that just came back from PCGS that was listed as PL doesn't even hold a candle to this one in hand.
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 Posted 04/26/2007  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim M. to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'll agree with Dave and say 65PL. The cheek is super clean, and there are very few marks to be found in the fields. The slight lavender toning also adds some beauty. Nice Morgan! ~Jim
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Really nice looking coin. Is it my imagination, or is there something special about the S mint mark coins from 1880, '81, & '82? I seem to see a lot more really nice looking high grade coins with those dates & mintmark.
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Morgan's in photos are very hard to grade for me, in hand no. The overall surface of the coin is Awesome very smooth, but I can almost swear that I see wear on the hair . Now I know some of the years had weak strikes that could look like that but I do not know which ones If that is wear I Say Au-58 If Not I would agree with MS-65PL
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Ok, the gig's up. Let me start by saying that Dave, you stink.

Just when I thought maybe I could get one by you....This is graded MS65PL by ANACS. I am honestly wondering if it's worth crossing to PCGS. I don't think it could ever go higher, but I'm curious as the the premium difference going to their slab. This is a coin I plan on keeping anyway, so maybe eventually it will be worth it. If I understand Susan correctly in the way grading has changed, maybe it will cross to a 68 in 10 more years.
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I think the cross is a slam-dunk, but it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. The additional value of a PCGS slab probably isn't relevant; it's a $200-ish coin either way. Absolutely a keeper, anyways.
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My instincts also said 65PL but I can't brag since you'd already posted the grade, and I have to agree that there's not much point in crossing it over since ANACS got it right and you should get your price from someone buying the coin and not the holder.

Very very nice coin indeed.

Of the 1882-S Bowers writes: "This is one of the most plentiful early Morgan dollars in Mint State and is usually very attractive. It can be compared to the 1881-S in that specimens of high quality are easily available, and at low prices."
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Can anyone see what I am talking about with the hair ..
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I totally see what you are saying about the hair, but it doesn't appear related to circulation, does it?
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quote:
Can anyone see what I am talking about with the hair ..


I can see exactly what you're talking about, Jim. Right above the ear, and above the temple, is what appears to be flattening and a break in the Mint State finish of the surface. You're right, too - this could just as easily be a function of wear, as it could be the quality of the strike.

As common as this is in Morgans, I tend to look to the reverse to confirm whether or not the coin has seen circulation. Even the slightest obverse wear will be accompanied by similar wear on the reverse. The first places to look are the breast and neck feathers, the very top edges of the wings, the talons, and to a lesser extent the largest leaves and bow at the very bottom of the wreath.

This coin shows such strong details on the reverse that I am convinced that anything I see on the obverse is related to strike.
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Thank you, for the info Dave I agree the reverse is immaculate and it has a crisp clean strike, I would say better than most anyway. I am very happy for you tights24. I believe the coin has a shot at a higher grade then. Coin in hand I do not ususally have any trouble grading, but photo's are tough
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