1904-O Morgan Dollar Help

I still need to here from SSDAVE, Before I talk about this VAM, I seem to need to swit=ch over to outlook, as I use hotmail, so if he has mailed me I havent seen it yet,,
HOW EVER,,
you folks are stumbling at the most basic levels....
Vamming is NOT a GUESSING GAME....
it does follow rigid basic rules to follow to discern
any VAM's potential assignment..So as our guesses online here have moved quite away from the basic chain...
Lets get back to the basics.....
the first thing is ...ONLY an individual that has studied "any" certain year can look beyond the basics...
such things as die cracks....AARE finger prints, but seldom used as most coins don't list ALLLLLLLLLL
of the attributes of any coin listed as a VAM....
IN FACT if you haven't noticed many are just a description and no, of few photo's...

SO LETS GET BACK TO BASICS, with this coin...
I have to note... the originator,
has the "BEST PHOTO'S"...quality....80% have poor quality in which we have to strain and nearly pull teeth to get them to figure out what WE are trying to see in order to help them....
Now for the coin here....
I have to ask.....as all have seemed to look beyond the basics...to GUESS at the rest.....
THIS IS NOT HOW ITS DONE...
FOREMOST IS:....#1....Date placement...
#2....Mint Mark Placement
"NOTE" this is only the first 2, important steps.....
Yet these are the most lost efforts,
Used principles...PEOPLE the listings are based on the listing principles...
"so if your date placement is NORMAL" WHY whould we look at listings that have a different date placement....? THIS is also true for the
MINT MARK placement......
THESE ARE 2 unfalible FACTS from these two points the VAM designations are determined.....
#1...this a normal date placement..not near or far date.
#2...This a normal Mint Mark placement...NOT high or low left or right.....WHICH the guesses have included which are out side of the actual VAM's designation..for example
The VAM 10 or 10A...Date placement is correct, as its normal, but the supporting die cracks are all wrong...for this coin/////
There is one major point on this coin, that has been over looked...the originator of this post does not receive email, so I will still wait to see if someone else, notices this or "hear" my cry LOL....LOL...

Aladinslamp, first thank you! I am so new to VAM hunting that obviously I've got a lot to learn :)

The info you provided in your last post is most helpful. Being I can't receive email yet I'll wait for others to chime in. I just found this one interesting and either way it goes I'm fine with I just wasn't sure. Hopefully SSDave will chime in as well. Th

I have the rev. as C4f. Am I correct? If "Hear" is some sort of clue to dbling of the ear, I couldn't locate it.

HEAR YEA HEAR YEA.....
yes from his photos's the ear is definatley doubled....
sorry sapelling...LOL spelling......but this is my po9int after all..
ONE MUST remember,,, VAMMING is "attention to detail".
and for this post we have ..........ONLY due to the fabulous pics of the poster...
OR I should say to ALL of YOU... download his pic.....you can enlarge it to quite some detail....
POINT in fact "Yes the ear is doubled"....Where do you go from hear? first start from the basics.. the date placement is normal.. as is the mint mark placement...
so the question/ANSWER is....IT IS NOT LISTED......for one very important reason...IT's A NEW VAM..
while this individual was concentraiting in the die cracks.....
they missed the basics....
so most of do........SEND IT IN to Leroy.........NOW..

IF you don't download the pics and crop it I will in the next few days as I get time...its already there for you to see...G....

Very cool srs77. Looks like you have yourself a discovery coin! As Gene says, get that one to Leroy.

I'm still new to this also. I'm still learning the different rev.'s. So, I'm curious if I have the rev. correct.

Can you see ear dbling w/ coin in hand?




As aladinslamp said, You should send it in to Leroy as a new discovery.

Aladinslamp, I'm using a Pentax K5 DSLR 16MP camera shooting with a Tamron F2.8 90MM macro lens. Yes, this is a prosumer DSLR and I can take pretty much any macro shot necessary. I don't shoot the coin from the top looking down. I have a light tent and a rig where I can set the coin up on it's edge and shoot directly at it. Now, the result is the same as an overhead shot but I just wanted to clear that up.

I can move my tripod at different angles both from the left side of the coin pointing to the right side of the coin and visa versa.

I'll shoot some different shots like this tonight when I get home from work. I have a wake to attend so they might not get posted until later or maybe even early tomorrow but I will shoot them.

If there is something very specific you think would be helpful please post it here and I'll shoot it.

Thanks for the attention to this as I find this coin interesting either way it goes.

Thanks again...