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Roman Coins Need Some ID Help

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Hi folks! I'm new around here and I hate for this to be my first post on the forum, but I could really use your help. I'm great with American coinage, but Roman is all new to me. These coins were shared with my by a detectorist friend in Ukraine. I have found some of these coins pictured, but not quite the same as the ones I have. I'm hoping someone can shed some light on these variations. I've taken pictures of 6 of them with obverse and reverse and provided measurements. Only #2 is silver (I think it's Commodus, but haven't found the reverse to match), the rest appear to be bronze or copper. #5 is quite thick and very small, almost button-like. Thanks for your help in advance!

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Hello and to the community.

We will be happy to help you ID your coins. Your first coin is a denarius of Antoninus Pius, #2 is a denarius of Commodus, #3 is also a denarius of Commodus, #4 a folles of the emperor Licinus from the Siscia mint. The other I don't know anything about. In the future it would be more easy for us to ID the coins if you only post one or two at a time.
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5 is greek. 6 might be Medieval.
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Although it is possible that Roman coins travelled as far as Ukraine, it would be unusual to find them in the soil in this area. Therefore, they are most probably not metal detector finds.
Nevertheless, Roman gold coins DID travel great distances in trade, and have been found in Southern India.

However, I would expect that there are at least a few collectors of Roman coins in Ukraine.

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The first coin is a silver denarius of Antoninus Pius.
Obverse legend "ANTONINVS AVG PIVS P P TR P XV11", and was struck in the year 153 or 154 AD. Laureat head facing right.
Reverse "COS 111" Vesta standing right, holding a simpulum and palladium.

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The second coin is a silver denarius of Commodus.
I am having some trouble authenticating it.
Obverse legend "L AEL AVREL COMM P FEL" Laureat head right
Reverse legend "LIB AVG P M TR P X111 COS V11 PP" Pietas seated left, child at feet.

Commodus had the tribunician power confirmed for the 13th time in 187 AD during his 5th consulship.
However, his 7th consulship was not renewed until the last year of his reign, in 192 AD.
That makes the reverse legend impossible.
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Coin #2 is Sear 5686 - Pietas enthroned left extending right hand to child and holding scepter. The legend reads P M TR P XVII IMP VIII COS VII P P. It is dateable to the year AD192
Coin #4 is Licinius (Co-Emperor and nemesis and brother inlaw to Constantine the Great) reduced follis with reverse of IOVI CONSERVATORI a very common type of both emperors which means "Zeus Saves !"
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Coin #1 is Antoninus Pius denarius Sear 4073 Fortuna standing right holding rudder set on globe and turned out cornucopiae AD152-3

I am not surprised these are being found in Ukraine. Romania is 'rich' in Roman coins and the border between the two is not going to stop money from flowing outward ..... especially pillaged loot. The last coin by its letters looks much more modern perhaps 18th century
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I would say coin #6 is King Jan II Kazimierz 1648-1668 AD coin

He was King of Poland and Grand Duke of Lithuania during the era of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, Duke of Opole in Upper Silesia, and titular King of Sweden 1648-1660.
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I think #5 is Pantikapaion. Tauric Chersonessos
Diademed, male head rt. / Bow in quiver; PAN to left.
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I don't question that they are detected, I've known him for a while and he has found some amazing finds over the years. He lives in Pavlograd and hunts from there to the Kerch area. I think Rooney hit the #6 on the head. I see now that it would make sense for the #5 to be Panticapaeum. I'm going to look at all the suggestions you all have made. Thank you so much! I apologize for having 6 in one thread, but I figured it would be easier to keep track of them. I have a few more that will need Id'd but I wanted to get these into flips. Are any of them worth much money? I know a lot of the Roman coins aren't, but you just never know? Still amazes me how something that is nearly 2000 years old can be worth so little..lol
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They all have some value though not much. They are a nice group of coins to start off an ancient collection with.
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I am a Middle School History teacher and I got them to go along with last weeks lessons on Ancient Rome. The kids loved getting to hold something so old!
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