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1944-D-Error-Help

1944-D-Error-Help

I recently came across this 1944 D cent. at first I believe it may have been altered but now at a second look. I belive it to be and error. I'm thinking FS-01-1944D-512 But I have NO Experience with these varieties. any opinions or comments would be helpful. Thanks
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Damaged coin.
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First off, if it were in the Cherrtpicker's Guide it would ba a VARIETY NOT an ERROR. Secondly, where do you see a listing for FS-512. CPG shows a 501, 502, 503, and a 504, but no 512. That being said, how did you determine after a closer look that this was a variety and not just a damaged coin as the previous two answered.
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As I said in the Original POST I'm not experienced in Errors (Varieties), and that is the very reason I asked the members of this forum, who have more knowledge than I do about it. and actually there is FS-512 in the GPG. but that being said, more than likely I'm simply wrong about what I was thinking/hoping it is. thanks to those who offered their knowledge.
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FS-512 is now FS-502 according to CONECA's Dr. Wiles. Even so, looking at the photo of the coin you are referring to, how does yours match it?
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I put the coin back under my scope and looked it at different angles taking away the shadows. the mint mark appears to crushed more than any kind of mint Variety. Booo -- mostly wishful thinking I guess.... but I thank those of you who commented.
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In looking at the Copper Coins photos for the 1944D-1OM-001
if the D mintmark were full and not damaged it's close. Please note this coin has an expensive value. Maybe someone tried to fake it, or ? Does it have the marker; A strong die flow line between the rim and the top right leg of the N in IN.


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albertharris, again please refrain from using copyrighted photos in your posts.
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I'm guessing not but the idea was Fun.. thanks!

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Hello cjcents and all.

Just wanted to pass along the fact that I appreciate this post and all who posted something on this sight. It is very informative and interesting and has helped me with getting through some tough times.(long story and everyone has one)

I enjoy people's enthusiasm for this hobby..that's why I got into it...nothing like the thrill of going through hundreds of coins and finding something odd.
I noticed a person on here that just found a new variety and was thrilled...as was I for them...and even if it's not a variety/error...still interesting...Enthusiasm...then learning...that's what it's all about.

Take care
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I really can't tell either. I like working with unc coins, but my next post is from an unc? roll and the MM is damaged. Even though the markers for this variety are there, because the MM is damaged it will probably never be classified. Education is full of what he or she thinks, many do not agree; and get upset when they disagree with someone. Free speech does include this, it's hard not to offended people these days. Most people in their mind are never wrong, and it's always someone elses fault. If you never make mistakes, you never learn from them.
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albertharris, you can still get PMD on the mint mark even in an UNC roll. This coin shows metal that has been pushed. If it were an anomaly on the die it would not have the appearance of being pushed. This is just plain old damage. Nothing more, nothing less. Education is learning how coins are made, and what makes these varieties. Once you understand how they come about you can start to eliminate damaged coins because what you are seeing is not possible during the minting process. You also cannot learn without considering what others that have much more experience as valid.
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Here is a video of coin production.
http://www.history.com/shows/modern...n-production
Notice in the first few seconds of this video how the coins are falling into the bin? That is probably how most coins are damaged. They take a some abuse in bags/circulation/wrapping but this is how the pushed metal get the most distorted. IMOHO
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Thank you Coop, went to the link; Got:" This content is currently unavailable."
They were making pennies when I toured the Denver mint in 1981. Had a nice Liberty nickel collection back then. Wife made me sell most of it, prices jumped 300-500% in a year. An 1885 proof-like BU I bought for $500 sold for $3000 at a Browers and Ruddy auction. $100 proof 65 and 66's I bought for $100 sold for $500-$850. Kept a few, graded PCGS and NGC, they sure aren't worth that much now!
And the American dollar has lost value.
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