Test Your Skills #2 By Grading These ICCS Coins... :)

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cameron93 Valued Member Canada 190 Posts	Posted 04/19/2013 2:18 pm 1) 2) 3) 4) 5) Report this Post to the Staff

DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 04/19/2013 3:34 pm I'm expecting that #'s 1,2 & 5 are all dated 1921....... #4 came across as quite unclear and pixelated...so... #1 ...F-12 #2 ...VF-20 to F-12 #3 ...EF-40 to EF-45...hard to see any luster with that poor pic...pic lacks necessary sharpness for accurate grading purposes.. #4 ... Again,..lacks any sharpness and I would only be guessing... . ...but,..I see a touch of luster in the crown but I can't give it a grade with that blurry pic... #5 ...Possible EF-40 to EF-45...but once again I would need a sharper pic to give it a higher grade here. Report this Post to the Staff
flippy Pillar of the Community Australia 1874 Posts	Posted 04/19/2013 7:37 pm 1 F 15 2 F 12 3 VF 35 4 F 15 5 VF 25 Report this Post to the Staff
tristen1230 Pillar of the Community Canada 516 Posts	Posted 04/19/2013 8:26 pm 1. VF-20 2. VF-30 3 VF-30 4. F12 5. VF-20 Report this Post to the Staff
DBM Pillar of the Community Canada 9866 Posts	Posted 04/19/2013 8:33 pm Reverse pics? "Dipping" is not considered cleaning... -from PCGS website Report this Post to the Staff
jdmern Pillar of the Community United States 1949 Posts	Posted 04/20/2013 05:37 am 1. vf35 2. vf20 3. au55 4. f12 5. vf30 Boardwalk Numismatics http://stores.ebay.com/jdmern/ https://boardwalknumismatics.com Report this Post to the Staff
nickelsguy Pillar of the Community Canada 2301 Posts	Posted 04/20/2013 07:56 am you can not grade a coin seeing only one side. Report this Post to the Staff
DEVLEC Pillar of the Community Canada 3234 Posts	Posted 04/20/2013 09:56 am Sure we can..... This forum is all about guessing a grade. With those pics ...you have to guess ...a bit... Right now were guessing the one side...for fun... Report this Post to the Staff
cameron93 Valued Member Canada 190 Posts	Posted 04/21/2013 7:26 pm Thanks to all who participated in sharing their opinions... :) I agree that you cannot provide a definitive grade by seeing only one side of coin... and that it is difficult to assign grade based on a picture, especially if picture is not high quality. But part of the exercise was to bring attention to the fact that most ICCS coins for sale on ebay only show a single picture of the obverse side, with the grade & date info in the background... Many buyers thus make purchase by putting an inordinate amount of confidence in the grade stamped on slip...as has been detailed often in previous CCF posts by the experienced & wise... "Buy the coin, not the holder". My reason for creating these posts to "Test Your Skills" was primarily to highlite how even the #1 respected professional grading company in Canada can vary widely in the grades assigned to coins... Upon knowing the ICCS grades, one can look back at the coins pictured in post and see distinct discrepancies between the grades assigned by ICCS, and the opinions offered by CCF participants... The average of all of the opinions offered by CCF participants was an expressed opinion that there were a variety of grades existing in the pictured coins ranging from F to EF... Drumroll please... All 5 coins pictured are graded by ICCS as VF-20... It is quite obvious to me, and indicated by opinions offered by all participants that some of these coins should grade below VF-20 and some above VF-20... I continue to be frustrated by the inconsistencies of the "professionals"... and the acceptance by too many that their word is definitive... Grading is obviously not an exact science... in my opinion 3rd party graders are for the most part throwing darts at the same dartboard as the rest of us, and are often no more or less accurate than most experienced collectors in assessing an accurate grade... Take care, and Have a Great Evening! cameron93 Report this Post to the Staff
jg86 Pillar of the Community Canada 686 Posts	Posted 04/21/2013 10:01 pm Didn't realize you had the grades posted. Was going to say: vf20, f15, vf30, f15, vf20 Report this Post to the Staff
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