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1971-D Cent - Can't Decide If Close AM Or Not?

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It may not be possible to determine whether this is a Close AM or not, as the initials have a lot of wear. Can anyone make a guess?
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1971-D-Cent---Can't-Decide-If-Close-AM-Or-Not?
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 Posted 05/11/2013  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add january1may to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wasn't all that "wide AM/close AM" stuff for dates in the 1990s?
(If I'm correct, your 1971-D can't be either, so it's kind of a moot question.)
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I was going by Lincoln Cent Resource website (lincolncentresource.com) which states: " Naturally all 1959 - 1992 cents should have had Wide AM designs on both proof and business strikes. Well, mistakes must
have been made because several variations have appeared." So I am confused, I guess, and do not understand...Can you explain?
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In my most humble opinion, this is a WAM as it should be, it is just that the fuzzy lines due to an over-polished worn die gives it the illusion of being closer than it should be. To my knowledge, all business-strike LMC pennies from 1959-1992 were struck with a WAM. In 1993 until 2008 they were struck with the NAM. However, some 1992 cents were somehow struck with the 1993 reverse when they shouldn't have been, thus creating the 1992 NAM. In 1998-2000 a few of the WAM reverse dies, used those years for Proof pennies, made their way to the business strike LMC's thus creating the 1998-p, 1999-p, and 2000-p WAM's. That is my basic understanding, but I would wait for the expert's answers which I am sure will give you more precise details and do a much better job of clearing things up for you.
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Thanks, Sudz - very helpful!
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Imo it's a WAM. The font of the "R" in "AMERICA" is the giveaway.
From what I have observed in cents & quarters, during transitional years the "R" is always an additional identifier.

I'm no expert... it's just an observation I have made.
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The way I tell if it is close or wide, if the "S T A T E S" looks like this, even spacing between the 'T A T' it is a Wide AM, if the "S T AT E S" looks like this, the second T is closer to the A it is a Close AM. John1 or Coop posted it some time ago.
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Thanks for this information. To me, it looks like the TAT in STATES has even spacing. However I do not know what to look for in the font of the R. I guess I'll try to find some online examples. I appreciate the help.
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I did the web search and it looks to me like the font of the R has a tail for the Wide AM and none for the Close AM. Interesting.
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