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China: Junk Dollar - Real Or Fake?

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 Posted 05/27/2013  6:06 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi.
Here's the coin.
Is it real or fake?

Thanks
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 Posted 05/27/2013  10:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea! But appeared to have good strike.

Can you weight it? Does it stick to magnet? What does Tokyo 3,000 H4/3 means written in front of the holder? (Is that the price for the coin @3,000 yen?)Or the symbol in between?
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 Posted 05/27/2013  10:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goodwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"H4/3" - probably means Heisei era year 4 month 3 ---> march 1992
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 Posted 05/28/2013  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wonghinghi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice, can you give the weight and diameter. See also the edge is well or not.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  12:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'd like to visit Japan, but have no clue where I should go first?

I should ask is there a district or places collectors shop for coins?
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 Posted 05/28/2013  01:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
No idea! But appeared to have good strike.

Can you weight it? Does it stick to magnet? What does Tokyo 3,000 H4/3 means written in front of the holder? (Is that the price for the coin @3,000 yen?)Or the symbol in between?


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Nice, can you give the weight and diameter. See also the edge is well or not.

It's a photo from the auction so I can only ask to measure it.
Anyway it is against the law to sell fake coins here though no one I know of ever tried to enforce law regarding fake sellers on yahoo auction here.
The seller of current coin is a pawn shop, having some modern chinese silver coins listed as well.


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"H4/3" - probably means Heisei era year 4 month 3 ---> march 1992

then it doesn't mean anything ... but maybe it's the time the coin was bought at that price?!


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I'd like to visit Japan, but have no clue where I should go first?

I should ask is there a district or places collectors shop for coins?
every shop I know prices the coins too high, even higher than ebay.
You might visit Otakaraya stores - these are kind of pawn shop network that are buying and selling any collectibles, PM, coins, etc. They are present throughout Japan.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  05:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
How much are they asking ?

These coins aren't rare and there are fakes.

Personally, I wouldn't consider it unless I could see the raw coin and weigh and test it, unless it's incredibly cheap.



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How much are they asking ?

These coins aren't rare and there are fakes.

Personally, I wouldn't consider it unless I could see the raw coin and weigh and test it, unless it's incredibly cheap.

it is an auction
the price now is about $22 with 4 hrs to go
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 Posted 05/28/2013  07:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pertinax to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In EF, genuine dollars KM quotes $55 - see http://www.ngccoin.com/poplookup/Wo...oinid=306456

however, I often see them at near silver value.

As you don't know whether it's fake or not, if it were me, I would leave it to some other sucker and buy something that you can see or at least not extensively faked.

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That coin will sell for a fair bit. Krause prices are severely outdated. Would be surprised if it goes under 100 dollars.
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 Posted 05/28/2013  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add goodwin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
"Would be surprised if it goes under 100 dollars."

looks like it was sold for 43

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 Posted 05/28/2013  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bekiz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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"Would be surprised if it goes under 100 dollars."

looks like it was sold for 43

Right!

P.S. one more member from Japan - that's nice! :)
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 Posted 05/29/2013  06:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macmercury to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
If its authentic...$43 USD would be a good buy!
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