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 Posted 06/17/2013  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Gender... female?
round thing... shield?
long skinny thing... spear?

I'll guess Athena.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  9:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Based on that I'd say Athena as well.
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 Posted 06/17/2013  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All that is correct, but it's not Athena.
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 Posted 06/18/2013  05:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I believe that there is a split in interpretation on this type. If I am correct it is an AE Unit from Bruttium. The majority of dealers/auctioneer define the type as Athena, some define simply as Hera whilst some use Hera Hoplosmia which I believe to be the most appropriate interpretation.
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 Posted 06/18/2013  11:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Doucet to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Interesting. I have not seen one described as Athena, and didn't know about the split, but if this is the case you are all correct!

Nevertheless, IMO I think Martin is most correct and got the type as well.

I would be interested to know how the original attributors of this type decided on Hera Hoplosmia as the reverse.

I find the story of the Bruttii fascinating. They produced some amazing coinage considering their beginnings.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bruttii

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Bruttium, The Brettii 215-205 BC. AE Reduced Sextans. 26mm,
Head of Ares left wearing Corinthian helmet decorated with griffin, thunderbolt below.
BRETTIWN, Hera Hoplosmia, helmeted, advancing fight, head facing, with spear and shield, bucranium to right. Sear 702; SANS ANS 100.

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The majority of examples on acsearch desribe the type as Athena, a few as Hera, one as Bellona.

I have looked in a small sample of my references. SNG Cop. and Lindgren describes as Bellona. SNG ANS (Dewing) uses Hera Hoplosmia.

One can understand that there is a mix of descriptions out there.

Martin

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On the basis that my attribution is possibly most correct it is easy to see how TIF could have found many examples that corroborate the Athena type from a host of major dealers and thus I cede the honour of the win to TIF.
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Thanks, Martin-- but please proceed with the next unknown. I prefer guessing and you have an amazing assortment of interesting coins!
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 Posted 06/18/2013  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
OK. Here is an easy one.

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Hmm. Female, wrist flexed and holding something, perhaps a worn scale? Looks like Moneta but I don't see one of her with a staff. Examples I've seen have her holding a cornucopia.

Is there a peacock under the obscured part?

I'll guess Juno.
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Aequitas would be my first guess
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 Posted 06/18/2013  5:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have only obscured legends.

Not Juno or Aequitas.
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Hmmm, could be a lion skin draped over her shoulders and a elephant skin headdress, but I have found nothing yet.


BTW thanks for the heads-up about Athena on the Bruttium Martin. I figured out why I missed it.
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You know my second guess was Carthage but the pose is wrong....I'm not sure.
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