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New Zealand Decimal Coin Varieties / Errors

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Hello CCF members! I am new to this forum site. I collect New Zealand coins/medals/tokens. I am interested mostly in the pre-decimal varieties of New Zealand currency, but one of the other forum topics (New Zealand coin varieties) sparked my interest in decimal New Zealand coin varieties. I am after a list (or any individual coins people may have knowledge about) of what to look for. If anyone can help with this it would be greatly appreciated


THANKS!
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 Posted 07/13/2013  07:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thanks Noah

CCF members... I just purchased a 1969 NZ 50 cent coin UNC with Cook Bicentenary 1769-1969 Inscribed on the edge of it. Unsure of the number that were minted like this and it hasn't arrived yet so I can only provide you with the details (off the auction description) I have above... Does anyone know anything more about this coin? Please and Thank You :)
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 Posted 07/13/2013  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The guide book says mintage of "100,000 (?)".
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 Posted 07/13/2013  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Mr T, we meet again! Thank you, my friend, I will note that with the coin..
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 Posted 07/16/2013  05:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My list to date... (with help from CCF member Mr T and TradeMe!) If anyone can add to this list I would really appreciate it :)

1967 2 cent. Bahamas mule.
(No date and Bahama Islands instead of New Zealand to the right of the queens head)

1967 5 cent. No sea.
(No sea to the right of the tuatara)

1967 5 cent. No tail.
(Small triangular area of tail under the tuatara's chin missing)

1967 50 cent. Dot over 1.
(A dot over the 1 in 1967)

1969 50 cent. Inscribed.
(Inscribed Cook Bicentenary 1769-1969 on edge of coin)

1971 10 cent, 20cent, 50 cent, circulated.
(Differ slightly from those in sets. Only rare in UNC condition)

1993 $2. Kingfisher.
(The only year NZ changed the design of the $2 coin)

1997 $2. SA
(Off-centre ridge on rim, lightly struck, weigh less)

1999 5 cent. Wart nose.
(Wart on queen's nose)
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 Posted 07/16/2013  05:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I also have heard of, but never seen (and can't any info on)... 10-cent blanks which were stamped with a 50-cent die.

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You need to add to your list the 2000 Solomon Islands mule to your list. Although Krause in their infinite wisdom list it under the Solomon Islands You can only find the coin in New Zealand Proof sets (the mule occurred when they were producing the coin for the proof sets). The coin is a NZ$5.00 NCLT. The reverse has the Cormorant and the obverse is the Solomon Islands obverse( hence Krause inflexibly placing it under the Solomon Islands. Apparently only 20-50 such sets exist.

On the Cook Bi centenary 50 cent. I recall last year it was discovered that there are two varieties.

Edit: You might also be interested in an Illegal fantasy piece: for the millennium the Chatham Islands were given permission to produce fantasy bank notes. They mistakenly thought the permission extended to coins. A NZ$50.00 piece was produced. the Reserve Bank of New Zealand found out and seized the dies and nearly all the coins..about 10-20 made it into collectors hands
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WOW they are now on my list... And wish list! Thank you for your help, I hope one day to own one of the 10-20 NZ$50.00 pieces' you mention above... A lot of overtime at work and swag loads of saving with a side of luck and maybe, just maybe, someday it might be possible!

Your wisdom / help with my list is greatly appreciated :)
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 Posted 07/16/2013  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
(I like mule coins! I have my eye on an AU Bahamas mule, BU would be more my style [but almost impossible to find] however I will go for this one if it stays cheep. It is nice for its age)

The 2000 Solomon Islands mule I will try to find and add to the collection also.

My 1969 50c hasn't arrived yet (in a courier depot somewhere!) so I will be keen to do a bit of research [when it arrives] and try to get both varieties.

Thanks :)
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 Posted 07/16/2013  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
NO worries I will check out the diagnostics on the 50 cent at post the info( I hope my memory was correct). I picked up a year ago an interesting Bahamas mule....it wasn't in great condition...but what can you expect when it was the piece presented to Rob Muldoon...It has the presentation box and a letter of authenticity signed by Lady Thea Muldoon... and to be absolutely clear ....it isn't for Sale!

Edit: My memory was slightly off it wasn't a 69 50 cent but rather a 1969 Cook bicentennial Dollar. Last year it was discovered there were two varieties identified by differences on the edge the normal version has "COOK BI ." ...... the discovered variety has "COOKBI -" from my reading that makes three varieties in all: Cook Bi with a Hypen, Cook BI no Hyphen and now "COOKBI" the lesson in this always look at the third side!

Edit 2: Here is a nice priced ( they are never too expensive) Bahamas mule. Mike Jack I assume your in New zealand so you would be able to bid on it....if not and your interested I can give you the dealers email address he will likely be happy to sell it out side of trademe:

http://www.trademe.co.nz/antiques-c...13759919.htm
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 Posted 07/16/2013  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add austrokiwi to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
A Solomon Islands mule is up for sale by nobles:
http://www.noble.com.au/auctions/lot/?id=305061
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 Posted 07/17/2013  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks again austrokiwi :) the link to the trademe Bahamas mule was the one I had on my watch list, unfortunately I was away from my pc at the time the auction closed and another trademe member got it :/
One closed a few days ago with no bids, I am hoping for a fixed price offer on that one, but, the one in the link you provided looked much nicer :( and they were the same price! I might wait for another nice one to come up on trademe and go for it... as for the Solomon Islands mule, I would love that... I think though at this point in time I would have to choose between my wife and that coin. Can the Solomon Islands mule cook a nice meal? haha I might have to start saving for the Solomon Islands mule! I have one of the large 1969 $1 coins you mentioned above, I will look when I get home at what kind it is....
You sure do have an awesome kind of Bahamas mule; I am turning green with envy!
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 Posted 07/17/2013  06:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mr T to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Do you know how the 1971 coins differ from those in sets? I read about there being two different types of 1988 50c piece the other day but it didn't say how they were different.
I think a few of the mint set coins may be subtly different from the circulation coins but I've seen any list of differences.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  10:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All I can find about the 1988 50c is that the Obverse had two die varieties. But I haven't found any more details other than that. I will continue to try and obtain more info on this coin; you have sparked my interest on that one!

I don't know how the 1971 coins differ slightly from those in sets, all I know is they differ slightly in design from those issued in the sets. I would love to sit the two variants beside each other, look with my magnifying glass and work it out for myself. Unfortunately I don't [yet] have them in my possession! I know in some UNC sets the coins were struck twice (much like the way they make proof sets) but am unsure that this would be the variant for the 1971 coins as I have read that the ‘design differs'. I want to know more! But it's 2am here in NZ,, time for bed!
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 Posted 07/18/2013  10:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike Jack to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My 1969 large $1 has COOK BI - CENTENERY (with hyphen) on the third side. I will keep my eyes out for the other two now :)
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