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Attempted PCGS Australia Grading Conversion

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 Posted 08/20/2013  07:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oh my florin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey I would have to disagree with saps grading particularly on MS60-65 and personally I think MS65 is GEM, 63-64 is CHU and 60-62 is UNC due primarily that they can not have any wear while the highest grade aUNC could possibly be would be AU-58 as it is the first grade to allow for any wear whatsoever. Anyway just some extra information for everyone I came to my conclusion through comparing the ANDA grading and PCGS grading
http://www.anda.com.au/documents/re...%20coins.pdf
http://www.pcgs.com/grades.html
Anyway I will change the lower grades.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  08:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sap to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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...I think MS65 is GEM, 63-64 is CHU and 60-62 is UNC due primarily that they can not have any wear while the highest grade aUNC could possibly be would be AU-58 as it is the first grade to allow for any wear whatsoever...

I would love to agree with you, but in my experience this is simply not what the American TPGs do. Maybe everyone with low-MS slabs are simply bad photographers, but too many such coins have what I would classify as very light wear on them. For example (and not wishing to pick on any one dealer here), can someone please explain to me why the dark spots on the high points of this 1915 shilling are not wear? Because they look like wear to me. I wouldn't grade that coin better than aUnc because of them.

It might also be enlightening to read this conversion chart published by CGS-UK which I just found, converting American slab-grades to British grades. Now British graders are even tougher than ours - they've downshifted the American grades by two full grades, but they agree that American "MS" ain't always Unc anymore: British Unc begins at MS-63.
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 Posted 08/20/2013  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add r9453 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hi, In an attempt to figure this out, I took the PCGS grades and Sap's ammendment to the OP and the UK conversion that Sap mentioned and put all three side by side and lined them up as best I could.

My Grade Comparison Chart - I was a bit surprised that the UK system with 100 slots available doubled up on some of the US grades with just 70 slots/rows.

Is this a bit like trying to compare the grades of judges at a diving contest where each one is looking at the same thing from a slightly different perspective?

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PO-1 = Coin? What coin? It's just a washer!

I have utilized this phrase with the word 'slug' instead of washer.

I do have a washer in a 2x2 in my hoard. There are a number of WTHs in my coin/token/currency collection.

Ah, my devil note. You would shudder at the description of evil trying to roil into our realm.

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