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Weird 1911 Wheat Cent With Indian Cent Marks

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 Posted 08/28/2013  10:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Sudz to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
For what it's worth, I love your optimism but I agree with Coop, rachums107, and Maineman. Sorry.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see anything that doesn't say that this is a squeeze job. I have no idea what you mean by "flowing metal" over GOD.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Look at the G closely. It looks like there is a clear coating over it from the indian. Almost looks as though the metal flowed over it, maybe from heat?
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 Posted 08/28/2013  10:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
And thanks Sudz!
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 Posted 08/28/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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What about the letters not being reversed as Westcoins stated and also the flowing metal over the 'God'?

Look at your image again, the devices are indeed mirrored and I think Westcoins was looking at the reversed image created by Coop. GOD is affected by the coin being bent and deformed from the squeeze job, it has nothing to do with metal flow.
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08/28/2013 11:36 am
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 Posted 08/28/2013  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bent and deformed? You can actually see that it is bent? Not getting it.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  12:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Bent, bulged, whatever. My point is that the rim above Lincoln's head has been significantly deformed by the squeeze job and has obliterated most of IGWT.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  12:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baysinger626 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
You know what this means? Somewhere there is a 1907 Indian that has indentations from a 1911 Lincoln in it. if you could find that one too.. oh man.. How awesome would that be?
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Not being sarcastic here, but anyone believing this is a genuine mint error and not Post Mint Damage should consider examining their numismatic interest so they don't get fooled into purchasing fakes.

I think some members here were confused with the mirror image coop posted, and if you look at the 1907 date in his photo, you will notice everything on the 1911 cent is reversed.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without a doubt PMD. This conversation should have pretty much been over after Coops assessment.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  1:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add liveandievarieties to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
In case anyone is still wondering, I agree- there is no way this could be a mint product (other than being an indent from a first strike brockage, from another design that hadn't been produced for years at the mint...)

The signs are classic, this is definitely a vice-job.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  1:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here is one that was squeezed in a vise:
Weird-1911-Wheat-Cent-With-Indian-Cent-Marks
It was sold on ebay. I contacted the sell that is was a fake and he still let it go.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Let me be clear..I have not stated this is a mint error. Just trying to figure out how it could have been done.
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 Posted 08/28/2013  1:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks coop and everyone. I'm still baffled by the bubbling over the 'G'. I'm wondering how they created that. I have yet to see that effect on any other suspected "vice" or "squeeze jobs".
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 Posted 08/28/2013  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinfox1 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Baysinger- Yes, and that indian left a lot of it's metal on this lincoln!
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