1795, 1796, 1798, 1804 Mexico 8 Reales - Chinese Fakes

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realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 09/25/2013 11:52 am All pieces of the same style of manufacture, similar tone jobs. His 1918 Canada half, I believe, is also fake... think I've seen an example of that one before from a seller of similar material: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-Mexico...200965211045 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1796-Mexico...200965209872 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1798-Mexico...200965211954 http://www.ebay.com/itm/1804-Mexico...200965212917 Report this Post to the Staff

Gwyde Pillar of the Community Belgium 506 Posts	Posted 09/26/2013 08:19 am Far too many counterstamps than plausible; moreover not of the type I recognize. The wear is inconsistent with the lack of patina an 18th century coin normally has. Design flaws where there shouldn't: possibly cast coins. Quite a few bidders have been fooled unfortunately. Report this Post to the Staff
wonghinghi Pillar of the Community Hong Kong 1270 Posts	Posted 09/26/2013 09:35 am Not likely silver made but the striking is quite good. Some questions on the chops. It is difficult to determine on the pictures but I think is quite easy to find it fake on hands. Report this Post to the Staff
denco7 Pillar of the Community United States 2543 Posts	Posted 09/26/2013 09:54 am $50-$70 isn't a lot of money, but it is is a lot to waste. It continues to astound me, how people can bid on something that is so beset by counterfeits and fakes. Especially from a guy with 5 feedbacks, all from selling golf clubs. Report this Post to the Staff
dosmundos Valued Member Germany 194 Posts	Posted 09/26/2013 3:52 pm Well, I think not many people expect somebody to fake a rather common coin and "deface" it afterwards with fake chops that even detract more of the value. They are prepared to look very cautiously at rarer coins, know that there are counterfeiters, have heard of things like "altered mintmarks", maybe even seen them, and would never buy a 1,000 dollar item that's being offered at 100. But a common bust dollar, circulated and even with some of these illegible Chinese marks, come on, who on earth would counterfeit them? And bang, there we go... Report this Post to the Staff
realeswatcher Pillar of the Community United States 1962 Posts	Posted 09/26/2013 5:02 pm Dosmundos, there's definitely a lot to that... I would say, though, another thing specifically regarding the pillar and portrait 8R - they are coins that draw a lot of "non-coin people"... The history buffs, pirate lovers, colonial enthusiasts, etc. That makes a large market of people who aren't very careful in picking out their one or two examples of genuine old Spanish pieces of eight pirate doubloons. Report this Post to the Staff
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